I think it makes sense to start the coordinates axis below the titlebar. In
ExtJS they have the concept of docked components such as toolbars and
titles. So I think you can do (I changed syntax to pseudo-mxml)
<container layout="vbox">
<Button text="10px below titlebar" margin="10 0 0 0"/>
<label text="I'm right below button because of vbox layout"/>
<label text="this is the titlebar which is placed at the top"
docked="top"/>
</container>
In other words, docked items override the container's layout and change the
coordinates axis point of origin.
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