If we allow one exception, why not more than one?

What if we add an "outputFolderExceptions" list and default it to just
contain "src/main/flex".  Then I could add "src" in my SDK installs to get
what I want.  Still not sure how it solves the original problem though.
If someone has a src/main/flex pattern and changes it to srcx/main/flex
seems like they will still be surprised.

-Alex

On 6/1/17, 10:39 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:

>If we do as I suggest, there would no longer be a list of patterns. I want
>to allow *any* folder name. That's what I mean by generalizing. Just
>automatically put the "bin" directory relative to the parent directory of
>the main source file. (with one exception: Maven-style project structures
>with src/main/flex would still be a special case).
>
>Right now, if you compile like this...
>
>mxmlc src/MyProject.mxml
>
>...you get a "bin" directory in the same parent directory as "src".
>
>I want to allow you to use ANY name instead of "src" too, like this:
>
>mxmlc source/MyProject.mxml
>mxmlc whatever-i-want-to-call-it/MyProject.mxml
>
>... and still get a "bin" directory relative to "source" or
>"whatever-i-want-to-call-it". Replace "source" or
>"whatever-i-want-to-call-it" with *any* folder name at random, and I want
>it to just work.
>
>The compiler would do something similar to this pseudo-code:
>
>File mainClass = new
>File("/path/to/MyProject/whatever-i-want-to-call-it/MyProject.mxml");
>File bin = mainClass.getParent().getParent().resolve("bin");
>
>You'd get /path/to/MyProject/bin/
>
>- Josh
>
>
>On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> I just want to optimize for a couple of common cases in order to save me
>> and maybe other folks some time.  If for some reason I need to compile a
>> Flash Builder project from the command-line or Ant or Java debugger, I
>> don't have to remember to set the -output parameter.
>>
>> I used to get FB projects in JIRA and email and then unpack them and
>> compile them outside of FB because then I can get the debugger on them
>> more easily.  All of our examples are set up so you can compile them
>>from
>> the command line and not have to type the -output parameter.  And if you
>> make a mistake typing the output folder name, it ends up creating a new
>> folder with that name.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by generalizing.  Are you suggesting allowing
>> folks to add more patterns to the set of folders where the compiler will
>> chose the parent of the folder pattern?  I'm not sure how that solves
>>the
>> problem.  Seems like you'd still be surprised if you use "source" or
>> something that isn't in the default list so a warning would still help,
>> but if that's what you want to do, seems like it wouldn't hurt.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>> On 6/1/17, 9:59 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm not sure that I understand why you mentioned changing Flash
>>Builder's
>> >default source path. That seems mostly tangential here.
>> >
>> >I'm saying that the compiler shouldn't care whether it's named "src",
>> >"source", or "whatever-i-want-to-call-it". It should simply default to
>> >putting "bin" in the parent of that folder. A warning might be a good
>> >temporary workaround, but generalizing this behavior is significantly
>> >better, in my opinion.
>> >
>> >- Josh
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think "src" is for Flash Builder.  I don't know what it would take
>>to
>> >> get FB to default to something else.  I know I have lots of projects
>> >>with
>> >> just a "src" folder.
>> >>
>> >> I agree it is confusing.  We could output a warning or error if you
>> >> haven't specified -output, -js-output and don't have "src" or
>> >> "src/main/flex" folders.  Something like "Warning: output folder not
>> >> specified and src or src/main/flex folders not specified.  Output
>>will
>> >>be
>> >> in <name of output folder".
>> >>
>> >> Would that help eliminate confusion?  That's easy for someone to add
>>to
>> >> MXMLFlexJSPublisher.java.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >> -Alex
>> >>
>> >> On 6/1/17, 8:52 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I think I had some trouble trying to get -output to accept a
>>directory
>> >>for
>> >> >a JS-only project, and that's when I figured out that -js-output
>> >>exists.
>> >> >Maybe I was doing something wrong at the time. Or maybe it didn't
>>quite
>> >> >work properly yet.
>> >> >
>> >> >Although, I still think it's confusing to those who don't realize
>>that
>> >> >"src" and "src/main/flex" get special treatment and then "bin" ends
>>up
>> >> >somewhere else if they happen to choose a different name for a new
>> >> >project.
>> >> >Between me and Santanu, that's two people who had to waste time on
>> >> >figuring
>> >> >out why "bin" ended up somewhere we didn't expect. I could live
>> >>without it
>> >> >being the current working directory if "bin" would simply go into
>>the
>> >> >parent directory of the directory containing the main class by
>>default,
>> >> >regardless of whether it's named "src" or not. If "src/main/flex" is
>> >>the
>> >> >only special case, that's better, in my opinion.
>> >> >
>> >> >- Josh
>> >> >
>> >> >On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Alex Harui
>><aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> And if you just use -output and not -js-output the bin folder
>>will be
>> >> >> where you specified -output, and if you specify
>> >> >> -output=somefolder\somefile.swf the output will be in
>> somefolder\bin.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The logic is trying to say:
>> >> >> 1) If you specify -output as a SWF, we will use the parent folder
>>of
>> >>the
>> >> >> SWF
>> >> >> 2) If you specify -output as a folder, we will use that folder
>> >> >> 3) If you specify -js-output, we will use that regardless of what
>>you
>> >> >>used
>> >> >> for -output
>> >> >> 4) If you didn't specify -output or -js-output then
>> >> >>   A) If you have a src folder or src/main/flex folder we will use
>>the
>> >> >> parent of src
>> >> >>   B) Otherwise we will use the parent folder of the main source
>>file.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't agree that CWD is the right default.  For me, I've always
>> >>had a
>> >> >> folder full of test cases and am not always changing folders.  I
>> >>think
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> regular Flex MXMLC worked this way as well so I didn't want to
>>change
>> >> >>that
>> >> >> pattern.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4A is just a convenience for those who follow certain common
>> >>patterns so
>> >> >> they don't have to do as much typing on the command line.  It
>>might
>> >>also
>> >> >> "do the right thing" for Flash Builder users.  I think Maven
>>always
>> >> >> specifies the output folder.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My 2 cents,
>> >> >> -Alex
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/1/17, 7:48 AM, "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In that case, the SWF will use the -output option:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >mxmlc -output=path/to/MyProject.swf -js-output=.
>>source/MyProject.as
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >- Josh
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:30 AM, piotrz
>><piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Ahh..Ok now it is clear. What about if we have
>> >> >> >> -compiler.targets=JSFLEX,SWF -
>> >> >> >> So -js-output will be also the place where SWF file will
>>landed?
>> >>- If
>> >> >> >>yes
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> that case this param could have different name.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> Piotr
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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