If I could get a zip to just try it, I am all for this.

On the plus side, if you can get a zip only for windows and documented
setup for quick testing, I think this goes a long way with being able to
develop the compiler and develop the ui framework separation a lot cleaner.

Getting stuff ripped away from the Flash player and Adobe in a new project
is #1. Plus the lightweight nature of not having to download the AIR SDK
for dev and just js.

@Om what would be the difference between npm and a zip?

Mike

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Since you fake airglobal.swc and playerglobal.swc maybe it will also work
> with Moonshine. I will try to do same operation as you did and see whether
> I will not have previous errors.
>
> Thanks!
> Piotr
>
> 2017-09-07 18:43 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>:
>
> > This is a big big deal.  Thanks for getting this done.
> >
> > I would be very interested in the non-installer, simple zip file
> download.
> >
> > I dont care much for Ant as a requirement, I would rather continue
> > maintaining the npm FlexJS package for AIR download + setup.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Yesterday, I was able to manually create a folder of files that
> contained
> > > no Adobe AIR or Adobe Flash files and still was an acceptable
> Flex/FlexJS
> > > SDK for Adobe Flash Builder and allowed me to compile
> DataBindingExample
> > > for JSFlex output only (it did not build a SWF).
> > >
> > > This is interesting because it could significantly change the way we
> > > package FlexJS releases.  We could have a default package that is a
> > > ready-to-use zip of this folder of files.  Then the Installer is no
> > longer
> > > needed if your goal is just to install FlexJS, fire up an IDE, and see
> > how
> > > it works in the browser without Flash and you don't need to see how it
> > > looks in Flash.
> > >
> > > If this sound good to folks, I will try to alter the Ant build scripts
> to
> > > produce such a package (maybe some other volunteer can take on doing
> this
> > > in Maven).  In case you are wondering, what I did was fake some of the
> > > Adobe files that Flash Builder looks for by making copies of some
> Apache
> > > files.  For example, I copied the js.swc that contains the Object
> > > definition for the browser to be airglobal.swc and playerglobal.swc.
> So
> > > far, it appears that Flash Builder is only checking for existence of
> > > files, not actual classes in these files.  But we might hit some bug
> > later
> > > as we test this further.
> > >
> > > Then the next question is, what do folks do who want to get SWF output?
> > > We could try to write a script for the Installer that downloads the AIR
> > > and Flash SDK and puts them in the right places in the SDK folder but
> it
> > > will run into the same memory limits that is currently a problem for
> the
> > > Installer.  We could write a new AIR app that brings down the AIR and
> > > Flash SDKs.  We could provide Ant scripts that download and deploy the
> > > Adobe bits.  I think we already have bash scripts that do this.  Not
> sure
> > > if folks on Windows will be happy with that or not.
> > >
> > > Using Ant has the advantage that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux.
> > Bash
> > > scripts require a shell on Windows.  I believe AIR apps have issues on
> > > Linux.
> > >
> > > We could try to teach the compiler to look for and expand the AIR SDK
> if
> > > it finds that someone specified SWF output but the AIR SDK is not
> found.
> > > It would look in Downloads folders for the most recent AIR SDK package
> > > name.  So folks who want SWF output go to the Adobe site, download an
> AIR
> > > SDK and then run the compiler.
> > >
> > > This does make SWF output somewhat "second class" and I still believe
> > that
> > > folks who want strong-typing and will be using modules will benefit
> from
> > > at least testing in a Flash/AIR runtime, but I think it makes the
> > releases
> > > truly appear independent from Adobe.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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