On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Felix is the happiest name so far. > Taken: http://felix.apache.org/ > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Braid is fine with me too. > > > > If FlexJS doesn’t work, we can just play the game… B-) > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game) < > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)> > > > > Harbs > > > > > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Peter Ent <p...@adobe.com.INVALID> > wrote: > > > > > > I'm inclined to favor "Braid" over Limber (however you want to spell > it) > > > because I can think of too many puns associated with Limber and the > first > > > thing that comes to mind, for me, is cheese that smells. > > > > > > I don't remember how to pronounce "Borja" and while English always > seems > > > to dominate, English-speaks will most likely pronounce it Boar-JA and a > > > few will go with Boar-YA or Boar-HA. So there will probably always be a > > > need for correction. > > > > > > While "Apache Royale" has a nice ring to it for me, I think "Braid" has > > > the right feel. You get things intertwined for a purpose, things in a > > > pattern, strands woven together, that sort of thing. > > > > > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there > are > > > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, > maybe > > > "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. > > > > > > —peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/19/17, 2:59 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > > > > > >> I am not an expert, but AIUI, trademarks are intended to avoid > confusion > > >> in a marketplace. There are lots of products named Flex, such as > cars, > > >> diabetes testing kits, and more. There are even other software > products > > >> called Flex and we need to consider whether it confuses potential > > >> customers about what Flex is being talked about. > > >> > > >> Mostly, we will use the term "Apache <ProjectName>" instead of just > > >> <ProjectName> when publishing things, but later in those documents > we'll > > >> probably just refer to it as <ProjectName>. > > >> > > >> So, IMO, having other projects on GitHub called Braids isn't a deal > > killer > > >> and your link [1] probably won't cause confusion. I was more > concerned > > >> about the Braids project related to Tensor-flow as Tensor-flow might > > >> become the new hot thing in software in general and if that Braids > took > > >> off lots of mentions of Braids would be about that. There is also a > > >> Braids "static staging compiler" for TypeScript. > > >> > > >> That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project > > >> called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". > Think > > >> of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name > and > > >> didn't realize we were associated with Apache, would you click on one > of > > >> these other project instead, and how long would it take you to realize > > it > > >> wasn't the right one? If you go try to sell writing an app in Royale > > and > > >> a competitor has proposed writing it in React with the other GitHub > > >> Royale, will that be confusing to your client? > > >> > > >> I wrote to trademarks@ to see if they are similarly concerned. They > > don't > > >> always respond right away. If they are not concerned, I will probably > > >> vote for Royale just so we have a name for tomorrow. > > >> > > >> HTH, > > >> -Alex > > >> > > >> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can > we > > >>> just > > >>> grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks > > >>> implications. > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c > > >>> o > > >>> m%2Fcristibalan%2Fbraid&data=02%7C01%7C% > 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > > 4f1 > > >>> 7 > > >>> %7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > 7C636414434060882785&sdata=A6 > > >>> I > > >>> IL4SNYWP2XFTvOife92gA1t8Km4E%2Fr7QpvQ3B3mI%3D&reserved=0 > > >>> > > >>> 2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J > > >>> <mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>: > > >>> > > >>>> Apache Bob... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM > > >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org > > >>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > > >>>> > > >>>> Ick… > > >>>> > > >>>> Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) > > >>>> > > >>>> Harbs > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with > and > > >>>> without diacritics. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > > https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wi > > >>>> k > > >>>> tionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fboja&data=02%7C01%7C% > > 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > > >>>> 4 > > >>>> f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > > 7C636414434060882785&sdat > > >>>> a > > >>>> =IObJoB2mvH3y8iHRBlUvDSDBXiTXitc2FPR1tPHKQ1o%3D&reserved=0 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even > > >>>> resorting > > >>>> to a > > >>>>>> South African "click" language. This makes it a challenge to refer > > >>>> to > > >>>> the > > >>>>>> product to anyone who does not already use it. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> *bodja, booya, boha. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < > > >>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Om, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> No offend :) That is why it is so hard to choose ;) I think > "bo-ja" > > >>>> is > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>> closes to how I pronounce it. :) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Piotr > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2017-09-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala > > >>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr😕 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha, or boo-ha or > > >>>> bo-ja, > > >>>>>>> etc? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" > > >>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are > mentioning > > >>>> Boja > > >>>>>>> - I > > >>>>>>>>> will change my VOTE. Limbr is a bit dangerous having Dave's > > >>>> finding. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Piotr > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> 2017-09-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui > > >>>> <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close > > >>>> down > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok > with > > >>>>>>>> Limber > > >>>>>>>>>>> (still not clear it will win, please state objections to > using > > >>>>>>> Limbyr > > >>>>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>>>>> the spelling. It is true a unique spelling stand out from > > >>>> search > > >>>>>>>>>> results, > > >>>>>>>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell > > >>>>>>> checker > > >>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>> constantly changing. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -Alex > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/17, 5:05 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" < > > >>>>>>> mark.kessler....@usmc.mil > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve > > >>>> letter > > >>>>>>>>> changes > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to the name. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark K > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS > > >>>> Fork > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on > > >>>> github. > > >>>>>>>> Let > > >>>>>>>>>> say > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to > open > > >>>>>>>> another > > >>>>>>>>>> VOTE > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to > > >>>> Limbyr > > >>>>>>>>> here ? 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