+1 On using "Fix Version" for that. I always try to use that already for things 
that need fixing in the next release. Also "Blocker" is a thing there.

> On 30. Aug 2017, at 20:29, Eron Wright <eronwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I definitely think the conversation must happen in the context of the
> expected feature-set.    JIRA is our friend here.   I like the idea of
> using the "Fix Version" to identify the set from which the leadership can
> formulate an estimate.  I would suggest that folks update their tasks
> accordingly.  WDTY?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Greg Hogan <c...@greghogan.com> wrote:
> 
>> Haven’t seen much discussion here. I see the benefit of time-based
>> deadlines but also of focussing on release functionality and stability.
>> 
>> I like the idea to keep the structure of time-based releases but soften
>> the deadlines. The schedule would not be open-ended but we could wait on
>> the completion and stability of major new features and also schedule around
>> events like the upcoming Flink Forward. I would like to still fork the
>> release branch as late as possible.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 5:07 AM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also think we shouldn't publish releases regularly, just to have a
>> release regularly.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can do time-based releases more flexible: Instead of
>> feature-freeze after 3 months, 1 month testing. We could do it like
>> feature-freeze 3 months after the last release, unlimited testing. This
>> would limit us in not adding too many features, but enables for proper
>> testing for robust releases. What do you think?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Timo
>>> 
>>> Am 23.08.17 um 10:26 schrieb Till Rohrmann:
>>>> Thanks for starting the discussion Stephan. I agree with you that the
>> last
>>>> release was probably a bit hasty due to the constraints we put on
>> ourselves
>>>> with the strict time based release. Therefore and because of some of the
>>>> incomplete features, I would be in favour of loosening the strict
>> deadline
>>>> such that we have more time finishing our work and properly testing the
>>>> release. Hard to tell, however, how much more time is needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Till
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Chen Qin <qinnc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I would be great to avoid immediate 1.x1 bug fixing release. It cause
>>>>> confusion and raise quality concerns.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, is there already way to communicate with Amazon EMR for latest
>>>>> release speedy available? I may try to find someone work there is
>> needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Chen
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I want to bring up this discussion because we are approaching the date
>>>>> when
>>>>>> there would be a feature freeze following the time based release
>>>>> schedule.
>>>>>> To make it short, I would suggest to not follow the time-based
>> schedule
>>>>> for
>>>>>> that release. There are a bunch of reasons bringing me to that view:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - 1.3.0, which was very much pushed by the time-based schedule was
>> not
>>>>>> the best release we ever made. In fact, it had quite a few open issues
>>>>> that
>>>>>> required an immediate 1.3.1 followup and only 1.3.2 fixed some of
>> them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - 1.3.2, which is in some sense what 1.3.0 should have been is only 2
>>>>>> weeks back
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - The delta since the last release is still quite small. One could
>> argue
>>>>>> to make a quick release and then soon another release after that, but
>>>>>> releases still tie up quite a good amount of resources, so that would
>>>>>> introduce a delay for much of the ongoing work. I am doubtful if this
>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>>> good idea at this point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - The current master has still quite a bit of "ongoing work" that is
>> not
>>>>>> in perfect shape for a release, but could use some more weeks to
>> provide
>>>>>> real value to users. Examples are the dependency reworking, network
>> stack
>>>>>> enhancements, speedier state restore efforts, flip-6, exactly-once
>>>>>> sinks/side-effects, and others.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alternatively, we could do what we did for 1.1 and 1.2, which is
>> making
>>>>> now
>>>>>> a list of features we want in the release, and then projecting based
>> on
>>>>>> that when we fork off the 1.4 release branch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Stephan
>> 
>> 

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