I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package owners.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > Thanks. > > Do we actually want this page to be multi-language? > > I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing > comments in different languages. > If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with > people submitting packages in non-english languages. > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Done. The writeup looks great! >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front! >>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of >>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too. >>> >>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website? >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be >>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal. >>>> >>>> >>>> That is awesome! >>>> >>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks >>>> that >>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to >>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user >>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a >>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs >>>> and do >>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the >>>> hardware >>>> side is also ready. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client. >>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing >>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" >>>> the >>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer >>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch. >>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be >>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal. >>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to >>>> help >>>> > with this project for the backend: >>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4 >>>> > >>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub >>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing >>>> list, only >>>> > on Jira. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose >>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g >>>> login), >>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not >>>> find a >>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author >>>> to see >>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage. >>>> >> >>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details >>>> about the >>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no >>>> response. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >> >>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/ >>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their >>>> company >>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their >>>> company >>>> >>> website is fairly low. >>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll >>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR: >>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187 >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request. >>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <ni...@basjes.nl> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page >>>> >>>> within their documentation website: >>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Niels Basjes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I >>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out >>>> with >>>> >>>> Kafka folks >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update >>>> the >>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger < >>>> rmetz...@apache.org> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they >>>> are >>>> >>>> willing >>>> >>>> >> > to share. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe >>>> sync >>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here: >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink) >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation? >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > Best, >>>> >>>> >> > Robert >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin < >>>> becket....@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert, >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org >>>> owners >>>> >>>> are >>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the >>>> requirement >>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful. >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it >>>> to >>>> >>>> redirect >>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while >>>> >>>> working on >>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website? >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We >>>> >>>> could then >>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if >>>> we >>>> >>>> have the >>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic >>>> site, >>>> >>>> I'm >>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed. >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger < >>>> >>>> rmetz...@apache.org> >>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The >>>> VMs >>>> >>>> hosted by >>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra >>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It >>>> used to >>>> >>>> be >>>> >>>> >> >>> linked, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some >>>> reason. >>>> >>>> This is >>>> >>>> >> >>> the >>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html >>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the >>>> navigation bar >>>> >>>> for the >>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think? >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right >>>> away. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about >>>> >>>> sending the >>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are >>>> >>>> interested in >>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together >>>> in a >>>> >>>> public >>>> >>>> >> >>> repo. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not >>>> to ask >>>> >>>> in the >>>> >>>> >> >>> first >>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the >>>> >>>> requirements, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody >>>> here >>>> >>>> in the >>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I >>>> >>>> believe we >>>> >>>> >> >>> will >>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin < >>>> >>>> becket....@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link... >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs >>>> (Apache >>>> >>>> infra >>>> >>>> >> >>> services) >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD >>>> Jail >>>> >>>> provided >>>> >>>> >> >>> by >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra) >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin < >>>> >>>> becket....@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We >>>> should >>>> >>>> absolutely >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more >>>> interactions in >>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >> >>> community. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution >>>> would >>>> >>>> be great. >>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. >>>> It'll >>>> >>>> be great >>>> >>>> >> >>> if >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra >>>> provides >>>> >>>> a few >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did >>>> not see >>>> >>>> >> >>> database >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in >>>> FreeBSD >>>> >>>> jail[2]. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback! >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <wshaox...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to >>>> me. We >>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just >>>> >>>> provide links >>>> >>>> >> >>> it to >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in >>>> that >>>> >>>> static >>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on >>>> the >>>> >>>> dynamic >>>> >>>> >> >>> pages. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang < >>>> >>>> wshaox...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea! Let us roll this out with Flink >>>> >>>> connectors at >>>> >>>> >> >>> the >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and >>>> >>>> upgrade it >>>> >>>> >> >>> when we >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich >>>> functions. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger < >>>> >>>> rmetz...@apache.org >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea! >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the >>>> page >>>> >>>> is placed >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something >>>> will >>>> >>>> get >>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if >>>> we >>>> >>>> want >>>> >>>> >> >>> features >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, >>>> and >>>> >>>> endorsed >>>> >>>> >> >>> by >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we >>>> >>>> could use? >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR: >>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/ >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. >>>> The >>>> >>>> source >>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure >>>> is >>>> >>>> not an >>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements) >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin < >>>> >>>> becket....@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about >>>> creating >>>> >>>> a Flink >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help >>>> contributors >>>> >>>> who >>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the >>>> >>>> community. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details. >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit# >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Niels Basjes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>
