Hi Yadong,

I think it would be fine to simply link to this discussion thread to keep
the discussion history. Maybe an easier way would be to create top-level
FLIPs for the individual changes proposed in FLIP-75. The reason I'm
proposing this is that it would be easier to vote on it and to implement it
because the scope is smaller. But maybe I'm wrong here and others could
chime in to voice their opinion.

Cheers,
Till

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Till
>
> FLIP-75 has been open since September, and the design doc has been iterated
> over 3 versions and more than 20 patches.
> I had a try, but it is hard to split the design docs into sub FLIP and keep
> all the discussion history at the same time.
>
> Maybe it is better to start another discussion to talk about the individual
> sub FLIP voting? and make the next FLIP follow the new practice if
> possible.
>
> Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年2月3日周一 下午6:28写道:
>
> > I think there is no such description because we never did it before. I
> just
> > figured that FLIP-75 could actually be a good candidate to start this
> > practice. We would need a community discussion first, though.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Till
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:28 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Till
> > > I didn’t find how to create of sub flip at cwiki.apache.org
> > > do you mean to create 9 more FLIPS instead of FLIP-75?
> > >
> > > Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> 于2020年1月30日周四 下午11:12写道:
> > >
> > > > Would it be easier if FLIP-75 would be the umbrella FLIP and we would
> > > vote
> > > > on the individual improvements as sub FLIPs? Decreasing the scope
> > should
> > > > make things easier.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Till
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:35 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot for this work! I believe the web UI is very important,
> > in
> > > > > particular to new users. I'm very happy to see that you are putting
> > > > effort
> > > > > into improving the visibility into Flink through the proposed
> > changes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can not judge if all the changes make total sense, but the
> > discussion
> > > > has
> > > > > been open since September, and a good number of people have
> commented
> > > in
> > > > > the document.
> > > > > I wonder if we can move this FLIP to the VOTing stage?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:27 PM Till Rohrmann <
> trohrm...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the update Yadong. Big +1 for the proposed
> improvements
> > > for
> > > > > > Flink's web UI. I think they will be super helpful for our users.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Till
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:00 AM Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everyone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have spent some time updating the documentation since the
> last
> > > > > > > discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In short, the latest FLIP-75 contains the following
> > > > proposal(including
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > frontend and RestAPI)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    1. Job Level
> > > > > > >       - better job backpressure detection
> > > > > > >       - load more feature in job exception
> > > > > > >       - show attempt history in the subtask
> > > > > > >       - show attempt timeline
> > > > > > >       - add pending slots
> > > > > > >    2. Task Manager Level
> > > > > > >       - add more metrics
> > > > > > >       - better log display
> > > > > > >    3. Job Manager Level
> > > > > > >       - add metrics tab
> > > > > > >       - better log display
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To help everyone better understand the proposal, we spent
> efforts
> > > on
> > > > > > making
> > > > > > > an online POC <http://101.132.122.69:8081/web/#/overview>.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now you can compare the difference between the new and old
> > > > Web/RestAPI
> > > > > > (the
> > > > > > > link is inside the doc)!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the latest FLIP-75 doc:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit#
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looking forward to your feedback
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Yadong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lining jing <jinglini...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月24日周四 下午2:11写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all, I have updated the backend design in FLIP-75
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here are some brief introductions:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    - Add metric for manage memory FLINK-14406
> > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14406>.
> > > > > > > >    - Expose TaskExecutor resource configurations to REST API
> > > > > > FLINK-14422
> > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14422>.
> > > > > > > >    - Add TaskManagerResourceInfo in TaskManagerDetailsInfo to
> > > show
> > > > > > > >    TaskManager Resource FLINK-14435
> > > > > > > >    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-14435>.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will continue to update the rest part of the backend design
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > doc,
> > > > > > > > let's keep discuss here, any feedback is appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yadong Xie <vthink...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月27日周五 上午10:13写道:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Flink Web UI is the main platform for most users to monitor
> > > their
> > > > > > jobs
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > clusters. We have reconstructed Flink web in 1.9.0 version,
> > but
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > still some shortcomings.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This discussion thread aims to provide a better experience
> > for
> > > > > Flink
> > > > > > UI
> > > > > > > > > users.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here is the design doc I drafted:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The FLIP can be found at [2].
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please keep the discussion here, in the mailing list.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your opinions, any feedbacks are
> welcome.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [1]:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit?usp=sharing
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tIa8yN2prWWKJI_fa1u0t6h1r6RJpp56m48pXEyh6iI/edit#
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> > > > > > > > > [2]:
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-75%3A+Flink+Web+UI+Improvement+Proposal
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