Hi Dawid, Thanks for the feedback. Do you think we should simply get rid of the "Trivial" priority then and use the "starter" label more aggressively?
Best, Konstantin On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:44 AM Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakow...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Konstantin, > > I also like the idea. > > Two comments: > > * you describe the "Trivial" priority as one that needs to be > implemented immediately. First of all it is not used to often, but I > think the way it works now is similar with a "starter" label. Tasks that > are not bugs, are easy to implement and we think they are fine to be > taken by newcomers. Therefore they do not fall in my mind into > "immediately" category. > > * I would still deprioritise test instabilities. I think there shouldn't > be a problem with that. We do post links to all failures therefore it > will automatically priortise the tasks according to failure frequencies. > > Best, > > Dawid > > On 01/03/2021 09:38, Konstantin Knauf wrote: > > Hi Xintong, > > > > yes, such labels would make a lot of sense. I added a sentence to the > > document. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Konstantin > > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:51 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Thanks for driving this discussion, Konstantin. > >> > >> I like the idea of having a bot reminding reporter/assignee/watchers > about > >> inactive tickets and if needed downgrade/close them automatically. > >> > >> My two cents: > >> We may have labels like "downgraded-by-bot" / "closed-by-bot", so that > it's > >> easier to filter and review tickets updated by the bot. > >> We may want to review such tickets (e.g., monthly) in case a valid > ticket > >> failed to draw the attention of relevant committers and the reporter > >> doesn't know who to ping. > >> > >> Thank you~ > >> > >> Xintong Song > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:37 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks for starting this discussion Konstantin. I like your proposal > and > >>> also the idea of automating the tedious parts of it via a bot. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Till > >>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:17 PM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Flink Community, > >>>> > >>>> I would like to start a discussion on improving and to some extent > >> simply > >>>> defining the way we work with Jira. Some aspects have been discussed a > >>>> while back [1], but I would like to go a bit beyond that with the > >>> following > >>>> goals in mind: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> clearer communication and expectation management with the community > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> a user or contributor should be able to judge the urgency of a > >>> ticket > >>>> by its priority > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> if a ticket is assigned to someone the expectation that someone > >> is > >>>> working on it should hold > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> generally reduce noise in Jira > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> reduce overhead of committers to ask about status updates of > >>>> contributions or bug reports > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> “Are you still working on this?” > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> “Are you still interested in this?” > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> “Does this still happen on Flink 1.x?” > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> “Are you still experiencing this issue?” > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> “What is the status of the implementation”? > >>>> - > >>>> > >>>> while still encouraging users to add new tickets and to leave > >> feedback > >>>> about existing tickets > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Please see the full proposal here: > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19VmykDSn4BHgsCNTXtN89R7xea8e3cUIl-uivW8L6W8/edit# > >>>> . > >>>> > >>>> The idea would be to discuss this proposal in this thread. If we come > >> to > >>> a > >>>> conclusion, I'd document the proposal in the wiki [2] and we would > then > >>>> vote on it (approval by "Lazy Majority"). > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> Konstantin > >>>> > >>>> [1] > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd34fb695d371c2bf0cbd1696ce190bac35dd78f29edd8c60d0c7ee71%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E > >>>> [2] > >>>> > >>>> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLINK+Jira+field+definitions > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Konstantin Knauf > >>>> > >>>> https://twitter.com/snntrable > >>>> > >>>> https://github.com/knaufk > >>>> > > > > -- Konstantin Knauf | Head of Product +49 160 91394525 Follow us @VervericaData Ververica <https://www.ververica.com/> -- Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink Conference Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time -- Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany -- Ververica GmbH Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B Managing Directors: Yip Park Tung Jason, Jinwei (Kevin) Zhang, Karl Anton Wehner
