+1, thanks for driving this Martijn On Fri 14. 1. 2022 at 15:01, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 > > On 14/01/2022 14:47, Till Rohrmann wrote: > > Hi Martijn, > > > > big +1 for this effort. Thanks a lot for pushing this initiative forward! > > > > Cheers, > > Till > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:49 AM Konstantin Knauf <kna...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Martijn, > >> > >> I think this is a great initiative. Thank you for pursuing this. It > allows > >> us to > >> > >> a) generate better insights into the usage of Apache Flink and its > >> documentation as shown in the video > >> a) do this in a privacy preserving way and > >> c) act as a role model for other Apache projects on this matter > >> > >> Big +1. I am happy to help, if I can. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Konstantin > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:21 AM Martijn Visser <mart...@ververica.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi everyone, > >>> > >>> The Flink website currently uses Google Analytics to track how visitors > >> of > >>> the website are interacting with it. It provides insights into which > >>> documentation pages are visited, how users are using the website > (what's > >>> the cycle of pages they visit before exiting the page), if they are > >>> downloading Flink etc. However, the Apache Software Foundation > >> discourages > >>> using Google Analytics [1] unless meeting certain requirements. The > Flink > >>> website currently does not meet those requirements. > >>> > >>> I do believe that it's useful to understand what parts of a website are > >>> important to users, what features are most frequently read up on, where > >>> they get lost in the docs, etc. so we can better understand how users > use > >>> the system, the website, and the docs and where to focus improvements > >> next. > >>> I would like to move the Flink website from Google Analytics to an > >>> alternative as soon as possible for Flink. I would be in favour of > >> opening > >>> up insights to this data for everyone too, it's public data anyway. > >>> > >>> For the past couple of months, I've been engaging in a conversation > with > >>> ASF Legal and ASF Infra about setting up a privacy-friendly alternative > >> for > >>> Google Analytics for all ASF projects via the priv...@apache.org > mailing > >>> list (I can't find a public web archive link for this unfortunately). > As > >>> part of that discussion, I've done a test with the open source and > >>> self-hosted version of Matomo [2], taking a look at the privacy > >>> implications and the functionality that this tool offers. You can > watch a > >>> recording of that experiment [3] and view the test setup I've used [4]. > >>> > >>> The current status is that ASF Legal, ASF Infra and I have agreed to > take > >>> the next step on this project. This step means that: > >>> > >>> * I set up Matomo on a VM provided by ASF Infra > >>> * A new DNS name is created (either https://analytics.apache.org/ or > >>> https://matomo.analytics.apache.org/) by ASF Infra > >>> * The Flink website is adjusted to remove the tracking from Google > >>> Analytics and include the necessary Javascript to allow tracking of the > >>> Flink website and documentation in Matomo > >>> > >>> If this test would be successful, ASF Infra would take over the hosting > >> of > >>> this solution and provide it to all ASF projects. > >>> > >>> I would like to understand from the Flink community: > >>> > >>> 1. Do you think this is a good idea? > >>> > >>> 2. If yes, I need a couple of PMCs for requesting a VM from Apache > Infra > >>> [5] > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Martijn > >>> https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82 > >>> > >>> [1] https://privacy.apache.org/faq/committers.html > >>> [2] https://matomo.org/ > >>> [3] > >>> > >>> > >> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yomYhLoyrzBW620bpn_dROiwyvSCzuvt/view?usp=sharing > >>> [4] https://github.com/MartijnVisser/matomo-analytics > >>> [5] https://infra.apache.org/vm-for-project.html > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Konstantin Knauf > >> > >> https://twitter.com/snntrable > >> > >> https://github.com/knaufk > >> > >
