Hi Martijn, Indeed good to hear that. Thanks for taking care of this.
Best, Piotrek czw., 3 lut 2022 o 15:45 Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> napisał(a): > Great news. Thanks for driving this effort Martijn and helping with it > Chesnay and Konstantin :-) > > Cheers, > Till > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:13 PM Martijn Visser <mart...@ververica.com> > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > A short update from my end: with the help of Chesnay and Konstantin both > > the Project Website, all Flink documentation (back to 1.0) and the > Statefun > > websites no longer send data to Google Analytics, only to Matomo. The > > privacy policy has also been adjusted and it includes an opt-out. > > > > Anyone can view the results [1]. For example, you could now write a blog > > and see how well it's being read/visited by others. > > > > I'll drive some more implementations in the near future, for which you > can > > follow the umbrella ticket. [2] > > > > Best regards, > > > > Martijn > > > > [1] https://matomo.privacy.apache.org/ > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-25863 > > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 18:55, David Morávek <david.mora...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > +1, thanks for driving this Martijn > > > > > > On Fri 14. 1. 2022 at 15:01, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On 14/01/2022 14:47, Till Rohrmann wrote: > > > > > Hi Martijn, > > > > > > > > > > big +1 for this effort. Thanks a lot for pushing this initiative > > > forward! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Till > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:49 AM Konstantin Knauf < > kna...@apache.org > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Martijn, > > > > >> > > > > >> I think this is a great initiative. Thank you for pursuing this. > It > > > > allows > > > > >> us to > > > > >> > > > > >> a) generate better insights into the usage of Apache Flink and its > > > > >> documentation as shown in the video > > > > >> a) do this in a privacy preserving way and > > > > >> c) act as a role model for other Apache projects on this matter > > > > >> > > > > >> Big +1. I am happy to help, if I can. > > > > >> > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > >> > > > > >> Konstantin > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 11:21 AM Martijn Visser < > > > mart...@ververica.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hi everyone, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The Flink website currently uses Google Analytics to track how > > > visitors > > > > >> of > > > > >>> the website are interacting with it. It provides insights into > > which > > > > >>> documentation pages are visited, how users are using the website > > > > (what's > > > > >>> the cycle of pages they visit before exiting the page), if they > are > > > > >>> downloading Flink etc. However, the Apache Software Foundation > > > > >> discourages > > > > >>> using Google Analytics [1] unless meeting certain requirements. > The > > > > Flink > > > > >>> website currently does not meet those requirements. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I do believe that it's useful to understand what parts of a > website > > > are > > > > >>> important to users, what features are most frequently read up on, > > > where > > > > >>> they get lost in the docs, etc. so we can better understand how > > users > > > > use > > > > >>> the system, the website, and the docs and where to focus > > improvements > > > > >> next. > > > > >>> I would like to move the Flink website from Google Analytics to > an > > > > >>> alternative as soon as possible for Flink. I would be in favour > of > > > > >> opening > > > > >>> up insights to this data for everyone too, it's public data > anyway. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> For the past couple of months, I've been engaging in a > conversation > > > > with > > > > >>> ASF Legal and ASF Infra about setting up a privacy-friendly > > > alternative > > > > >> for > > > > >>> Google Analytics for all ASF projects via the priv...@apache.org > > > > mailing > > > > >>> list (I can't find a public web archive link for this > > unfortunately). > > > > As > > > > >>> part of that discussion, I've done a test with the open source > and > > > > >>> self-hosted version of Matomo [2], taking a look at the privacy > > > > >>> implications and the functionality that this tool offers. You can > > > > watch a > > > > >>> recording of that experiment [3] and view the test setup I've > used > > > [4]. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The current status is that ASF Legal, ASF Infra and I have agreed > > to > > > > take > > > > >>> the next step on this project. This step means that: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> * I set up Matomo on a VM provided by ASF Infra > > > > >>> * A new DNS name is created (either > https://analytics.apache.org/ > > or > > > > >>> https://matomo.analytics.apache.org/) by ASF Infra > > > > >>> * The Flink website is adjusted to remove the tracking from > Google > > > > >>> Analytics and include the necessary Javascript to allow tracking > of > > > the > > > > >>> Flink website and documentation in Matomo > > > > >>> > > > > >>> If this test would be successful, ASF Infra would take over the > > > hosting > > > > >> of > > > > >>> this solution and provide it to all ASF projects. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I would like to understand from the Flink community: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1. Do you think this is a good idea? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 2. If yes, I need a couple of PMCs for requesting a VM from > Apache > > > > Infra > > > > >>> [5] > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best regards, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Martijn > > > > >>> https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [1] https://privacy.apache.org/faq/committers.html > > > > >>> [2] https://matomo.org/ > > > > >>> [3] > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yomYhLoyrzBW620bpn_dROiwyvSCzuvt/view?usp=sharing > > > > >>> [4] https://github.com/MartijnVisser/matomo-analytics > > > > >>> [5] https://infra.apache.org/vm-for-project.html > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > > >> Konstantin Knauf > > > > >> > > > > >> https://twitter.com/snntrable > > > > >> > > > > >> https://github.com/knaufk > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
