Hi Godfrey,

Thanks for your reply.

Sounds good to me.

> I think we should also introduce a config option

We can add this option to the FLIP. I prefer a option for
FileSystemConnector, maybe a enum.

Best,
Jingsong

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:31 AM godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jingsong,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
>
> >One concern I have is that we read the footer for each file, and this may
> >be a bit costly in some cases. Is it possible for us to have some
> > hierarchical way
> yes, if there are thousands of orc/parquet files, it may take a long time.
> So we can introduce a config option to let the user choose the
> granularity of the statistics.
> But the SIZE will not be introduced, because the planner does not use
> the file size statistics now.
> We can introduce once file size statistics is introduce in the future.
> I think we should also introduce a config option to enable/disable
> SupportStatisticReport,
> because it's a heavy operation for some connectors in some cases.
>
> > is the filter pushdown already happening at
> > this time?
> That's a good point. Currently, the filter push down is after partition
> pruning
> to prevent the filter push down rule from consuming the partition
> predicates.
> The statistics will be set to unknown if filter is pushed down now.
> To combine them all, we can create an optimization program after filter
> push
> down program to collect the statistics. This could avoid collecting
> statistics multiple times.
>
>
> Best,
> Godfrey
>
> Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> 于2022年5月13日周五 22:44写道:
> >
> > Thank Godfrey for driving.
> >
> > Looks very good~ This will undoubtedly greatly enhance the various batch
> > mode connectors.
> >
> > I left some comments:
> >
> > ## FileBasedStatisticsReportableDecodingFormat
> >
> > One concern I have is that we read the footer for each file, and this may
> > be a bit costly in some cases. Is it possible for us to have some
> > hierarchical way, e.g.
> > - No statistics are collected for files by default.
> > - SIZE: Generate statistics based on file Size, get the size of the file
> > only with access to the master of the FileSystem.
> > - DETAILED: Get the complete statistics by format, possibly by accessing
> > the footer of the file.
> >
> > ## When use the statistics reported by connector
> >
> > > When partitions are pruned by PushPartitionIntoTableSourceScanRule, the
> > statistics should also be updated.
> >
> > I understand that we definitely need to use reporter after the partition
> > prune, but another question: is the filter pushdown already happening at
> > this time?
> > Can we make sure that in the following three cases, both the filter
> > pushdown and the partition prune happen before the stats reporting.
> > - only partition prune happens
> > - only filter pushdown happens
> > - both filter pushdown and partition prune happen
> >
> > Best,
> > Jingsong
> >
> > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 6:57 PM godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to open a discussion on FLIP-231:  Introduce
> > > SupportStatisticReport
> > > to support reporting statistics from source connectors.
> > >
> > > Statistics are one of the most important inputs to the optimizer.
> > > Accurate and complete statistics allows the optimizer to be more
> powerful.
> > > Currently, the statistics of Flink SQL come from Catalog only,
> > > while many Connectors have the ability to provide statistics, e.g.
> > > FileSystem.
> > > In production, we find many tables in Catalog do not have any
> statistics.
> > > As a result, the optimizer can't generate better execution plans,
> > > especially for Batch jobs.
> > >
> > > There are two approaches to enhance statistics for the planner,
> > > one is to introduce the "ANALYZE TABLE" syntax which will write
> > > the analyzed result to the catalog, another is to introduce a new
> > > connector interface
> > > which allows the connector itself to report statistics directly to the
> > > planner.
> > > The second one is a supplement to the catalog statistics.
> > >
> > > Here, we will discuss the second approach. Compared to the first one,
> > > the second one is to get statistics in real time, no need to run an
> > > analysis job for each table. This could help improve the user
> > > experience.
> > > (We will also introduce the "ANALYZE TABLE" syntax in other FLIP.)
> > >
> > > You can find more details in FLIP-231 document[1]. Looking forward to
> > > your feedback.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/resumedraft.action?draftId=211883860&draftShareId=eda17eaa-43f9-4dc1-9a7d-3a9b5a4bae00&;
> > > [2] POC: https://github.com/godfreyhe/flink/tree/FLIP-231
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Godfrey
> > >
>

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