Hi everyone, If there are no other questions or concerns for the FLIP[1], I'd like to start the vote next Monday(3.13).
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240885081 Best, Lincoln Lee Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> 于2023年3月10日周五 05:59写道： > Hi Lincoln, > > sounds good to me. Thanks! > > Best, > Jing > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:01 PM Lincoln Lee <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Jing, > > Agree with you that using formal terms can be easier to users, I've > updated > > the FLIP[1], since this is only one of the application scenarios for > > partial insert, our java doc for the corresponding interface will > describe > > the partial insert message itself from a generic point of view, WDTY? > > > > @Jacky thanks for your feedback! > > here are my thoughts for the two questions: > > for this scenario, I don't think the planner should report an error. We > > cannot assume that such usage will necessarily result in errors or that > > users are unaware of potential risks (just like in a database, similar > > operations are not prompted with errors). In the streaming scenario, > > regarding the risks associated with the multi-insert operation with > > overlapping fields, we may consider expanding the plan advice (FLIP-280 > has > > just added possibilities to support this) to prompt users instead of > > rejecting the operation with an error. > > > 1. if the two insert into with same columns, the result is not > > nondeterminism. will it check in planner and throw exception > > > > yes, not all connectors support partial insert. Therefore, the > introduction > > of this interface is only intended as additional information for the > > connectors that need it. The new `targetColumns` only provide the column > > list information corresponding to the statement according to the SQL > > standard, and existing connectors do not need to make any passive changes > > by default. > > > 2. some sink connectors can not supports it like queue such as kafka > > compacted topic. will also it check in planner and throw exception > > > > welcome your feedback! > > > > > > [1] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240885081 > > > > > > Best, > > Lincoln Lee > > > > > > Jacky Lau <liuyong...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月8日周三 20:11写道： > > > > > Thanks for bringing this up. this is a good feature. but i have two > > > questions: > > > 1. if the two insert into with same columns, the result is > > > not nondeterminism. will it check in planner and throw exception > > > 2. some sink connectors can not supports it like queue such as kafka > > > compacted topic. will also it check in planner and throw exception > > > > > > Lincoln Lee <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月7日周二 14:53写道： > > > > > > > Hi Aitozi, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback! Yes, including HBase and JDBC connector, > > they > > > > can be considered for support in the next step (JDBC as as a standard > > > > protocol supported not only in traditional databases, but also in > more > > > and > > > > more new types of storage). Considering the ongoing externalizing of > > > > connectors and the release cycles of the connectors are decoupled > with > > > the > > > > release cycle of Flink, we can initiate corresponding support issues > > for > > > > specific connectors to follow up on support after finalizing the API > > > > changes, WDYT? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Lincoln Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > Hang Ruan <ruanhang1...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月7日周二 12:14写道： > > > > > > > > > Hi, Lincoln, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this up. It looks good to me. I also agree with > > > > > Jingsong's suggestion. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Hang > > > > > > > > > > Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月7日周二 11:15写道： > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, we have 300 FLIPs... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Lincoln, > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you considered returning an Optional<int[][]>? > > > > > > > > > > > > Empty array looks a little weird to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 10:32 AM Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Lincoln, > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing this FLIP. Overall, it looks good to > > me. > > > I > > > > > have > > > > > > > one question: with the introduction of this interface, > > > > > > > will any existing Flink connectors need to be updated in order > to > > > > take > > > > > > > advantage of its capabilities? For example, HBase. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuxia <luoyu...@alumni.sjtu.edu.cn> 于2023年3月7日周二 10:01写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. It makes sense to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Yuxia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- 原始邮件 ----- > > > > > > > > 发件人: "Lincoln Lee" <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > 收件人: "dev" <dev@flink.apache.org> > > > > > > > > 发送时间: 星期一, 2023年 3 月 06日 下午 10:26:26 > > > > > > > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-300: Add targetColumns to > > > > > > DynamicTableSink#Context > > > > > > > > to solve the null overwrite problem of partial-insert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi yuxia, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback and tracking the issue of update > > > > statement! > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > updated the FLIP[1] and also the poc[2]. > > > > > > > > Since the bug and flip are orthogonal, we can focus on > > finalizing > > > > the > > > > > > api > > > > > > > > changes first, and then work on the flip implementation and > > > bugfix > > > > > > > > separately, WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240885081 > > > > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/22041 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Lincoln Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yuxia <luoyu...@alumni.sjtu.edu.cn> 于2023年3月6日周一 21:21写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Lincoln. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this up. +1 for this FLIP, it's helpful > > for > > > > > > external > > > > > > > > > storage system to implement partial update. > > > > > > > > > The FLIP looks good to me. I only want to add one comment, > > > update > > > > > > > > > statement also doesn't support updating nested column, I > have > > > > > created > > > > > > > > > FLINK-31344[1] to track it. > > > > > > > > > Maybe we also need to explain it in this FLIP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-31344 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > Yuxia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- 原始邮件 ----- > > > > > > > > > 发件人: "Lincoln Lee" <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > 收件人: "dev" <dev@flink.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > 发送时间: 星期五, 2023年 3 月 03日 下午 12:22:19 > > > > > > > > > 主题: [DISCUSS] FLIP-300: Add targetColumns to > > > > > > DynamicTableSink#Context to > > > > > > > > > solve the null overwrite problem of partial-insert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This FLIP[1] aims to support connectors in avoiding > > overwriting > > > > > > > > non-target > > > > > > > > > columns with null values when processing partial column > > > updates, > > > > we > > > > > > > > propose > > > > > > > > > adding information on the target column list to > > > > > > DynamicTableSink#Context. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FLINK-18726[2] supports inserting statements with specified > > > > column > > > > > > list, > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > fills null values (or potentially declared default values > in > > > the > > > > > > future) > > > > > > > > > for columns not appearing in the column list of insert > > > statement > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > target table. > > > > > > > > > But this behavior does not satisfy some partial column > update > > > > > > > > requirements > > > > > > > > > of some storage systems which allow storing null values. > The > > > > > problem > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > that connectors cannot distinguish whether the null value > of > > a > > > > > > column is > > > > > > > > > really from the user's data or whether it is a null value > > > > populated > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > of partial insert behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your comments or feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240885081 > > > > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18726 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
