Hi Matthias,

Thanks for your reply. Due to my busy work reasons, I would like to focus only 
on
the `Path` class in FLIP-347 for now. As for the implementation of other 
modules, 
I will review them when I have available time later on.


Best regards,
Wencong Liu














At 2023-07-26 18:35:21, "Matthias Pohl" <matthias.p...@aiven.io.INVALID> wrote:
>Correct. I don't have the intention to block this FLIP if it's too much
>effort to expand it. Sorry if that's the message that came across.
>
>On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:17 PM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it worth looking into all implementations of IOReadeableWritable.
>> However, I would not consider that as a concern of this FLIP.
>>
>> An important convention of the open-source community is volunteer work. If
>> Wencong only wants to work on the `Path` case, I think he should not be
>> asked to investigate all other cases.
>>
>> I believe it's not Matthias's intention to put more workload on Wencong.
>> It's just sometimes such requests are not easy to say no.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Xintong
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 4:14 PM Matthias Pohl
>> <matthias.p...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Is the time constraint driven by the fact that you wanted to have that
>> > effort being included in 1.18? If so, it looks like that's not possible
>> > based on the decision being made for 1.18 to only allow document changes
>> > [1]. So, there would be actually time to look into it. WDYT?
>> >
>> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/7l1c9ybqgyc1mx7t7tk4wkc1cm8481o9
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:04 PM Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Junrui
>> > >
>> > > Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> 于2023年7月24日周一 23:28写道:
>> > >
>> > > > agree, since we want to try our best to deprecate APIs in 1.18, it
>> > makes
>> > > > sense.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > > Jing
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 12:11 PM Wencong Liu <liuwencle...@163.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Jing and Matthias,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >     I believe it is reasonable to examine all classes that
>> implement
>> > > the
>> > > > > IOReadableWritable
>> > > > > interface and summarize their actual usage. However, due to time
>> > > > > constraints, I suggest
>> > > > > we minimize the scope of this FLIP to focus on the Path class. As
>> for
>> > > > > other components
>> > > > > that implement IOReadableWritable, we can make an effort to
>> > investigate
>> > > > > them
>> > > > > in the future. WDYT?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > Wencong Liu
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > At 2023-07-22 00:46:45, "Jing Ge" <j...@ververica.com.INVALID>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > >Hi Wencong,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Thanks for the clarification. I got your point. It makes sense.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Wrt IOReadableWritable, the suggestion was to check all classes
>> that
>> > > > > >implemented it, e.g. BlockInfo, Value, Configuration, etc. Not
>> > limited
>> > > > to
>> > > > > >the Path.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Best regards,
>> > > > > >Jing
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 4:31 PM Wencong Liu <liuwencle...@163.com
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Hello Jing,
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Thanks for your reply. The URI field should be final and the
>> > > > > >> Path will be immutable.The static method
>> > > deserializeFromDataInputView
>> > > > > >> will create a new Path object instead of replacing the URI field
>> > > > > >> in a existed Path Object.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> For the crossing multiple modules issue, I've explained it in
>> the
>> > > > reply
>> > > > > >> to Matthias.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Best regards,
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Wencong Liu
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> At 2023-07-21 18:05:26, "Jing Ge" <j...@ververica.com.INVALID>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >> >Hi Wencong,
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >Just out of curiosity, will the newly introduced
>> > > > > >> >deserializeFromDataInputView() method make the Path mutable
>> > again?
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >What Matthias suggested makes sense, although the extension
>> might
>> > > > make
>> > > > > >> this
>> > > > > >> >FLIP cross multiple modules.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >Best regards,
>> > > > > >> >Jing
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:23 AM Matthias Pohl
>> > > > > >> ><matthias.p...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >> There's a kind-of-related issue FLINK-4758 [1] that proposes
>> > > > removing
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >> >> IOReadableWritable interface from more classes. It was
>> briefly
>> > > > > >> mentioned in
>> > > > > >> >> the must-have work items discussion [2].
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> I'm not too sure about the usage of IOReadableWritable:
>> > > ...whether
>> > > > it
>> > > > > >> would
>> > > > > >> >> go away with the removal of the DataSet API in general (the
>> > Jira
>> > > > > issue
>> > > > > >> has
>> > > > > >> >> DataSet as a component), anyway.
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> Otherwise, might it make sense to extend the scope of this
>> > FLIP?
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-4758
>> > > > > >> >> [2]
>> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/gf0h4gh3xfsj78cpdsxsnj70nhzcmv9r
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 6:04 AM Xintong Song <
>> > > > tonysong...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> > +1
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > Best,
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > Xintong
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:54 AM Wencong Liu <
>> > > > liuwencle...@163.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > > Hi devs,
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > I would like to start a discussion on FLIP-347: Remove
>> > > > > >> >> IOReadableWritable
>> > > > > >> >> > > serialization in Path [1].
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > The Path class is currently mutable to support
>> > > > IOReadableWritable
>> > > > > >> >> > > serialization. However, many parts
>> > > > > >> >> > > of the code assume that the Path is immutable. By making
>> > the
>> > > > Path
>> > > > > >> class
>> > > > > >> >> > > immutable, we can ensure
>> > > > > >> >> > > that paths are stored correctly without the possibility
>> of
>> > > > > mutation
>> > > > > >> and
>> > > > > >> >> > > eliminate the occurrence of subtle errors.
>> > > > > >> >> > > As such I propose to modify the Path class to no longer
>> > > > implement
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >> >> > > IOReadableWritable interface.
>> > > > > >> >> > > Looking forward to your feedback.
>> > > > > >> >> > > [1]
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-347%3A+Remove+IOReadableWritable+serialization+in+Path
>> > > > > >> >> > > Best regards,
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > >
>> > > > > >> >> > > Wencong Liu
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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