Hi Yubin,

Thank you for initiating this discussion! +1 for the proposal.

I also think it makes sense to group the missing catalog related
SQL syntaxes under this FLIP.

Looking forward to these features!

Best,
Ferenc




On Thursday, March 14th, 2024 at 08:31, Jane Chan <qingyue....@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Yubin,
> 
> Thanks for leading the discussion. I'm +1 for the FLIP.
> 
> As Jark said, it's a good opportunity to enhance the syntax for Catalog
> from a more comprehensive perspective. So, I suggest expanding the scope of
> this FLIP by focusing on the mechanism instead of one use case to enhance
> the overall functionality. WDYT?
> 
> Best,
> Jane
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 11:38 AM Hang Ruan ruanhang1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Yubin.
> > 
> > Thanks for the FLIP. +1 for it.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Hang
> > 
> > Yubin Li lyb5...@gmail.com 于2024年3月14日周四 10:15写道:
> > 
> > > Hi Jingsong, Feng, and Jeyhun
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your support and feedback!
> > > 
> > > > However, could we add a new method `getCatalogDescriptor()` to
> > > > CatalogManager instead of directly exposing CatalogStore?
> > > 
> > > Good point, Besides the audit tracking issue, The proposed feature
> > > only requires `getCatalogDescriptor()` function. Exposing components
> > > with excessive functionality will bring unnecessary risks, I have made
> > > modifications in the FLIP doc [1]. Thank Feng :)
> > > 
> > > > Showing the SQL parser implementation in the FLIP for the SQL syntax
> > > > might be a bit confusing. Also, the formal definition is missing for
> > > > this SQL clause.
> > > 
> > > Thank Jeyhun for pointing it out :) I have updated the doc [1] .
> > > 
> > > [1]
> > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=296290756
> > 
> > > Best,
> > > Yubin
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:18 AM Jeyhun Karimov je.kari...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi Yubin,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the proposal. +1 for it.
> > > > I have one comment:
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to see the SQL syntax for the proposed statement. Showing
> > > > the
> > > > SQL parser implementation in the FLIP
> > > > for the SQL syntax might be a bit confusing. Also, the formal
> > > > definition
> > > > is
> > > > missing for this SQL clause.
> > > > Maybe something like [1] might be useful. WDYT?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jeyhun
> > > > 
> > > > [1]
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/0da60ca1a4754f858cf7c52dd4f0c97ae0e1b0cb/docs/content/docs/dev/table/sql/show.md?plain=1#L620-L632
> > 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 3:28 PM Feng Jin jinfeng1...@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Yubin
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for initiating this FLIP.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have just one minor question:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I noticed that we added a new function `getCatalogStore` to expose
> > > > > CatalogStore, and it seems fine.
> > > > > However, could we add a new method `getCatalogDescriptor()` to
> > > > > CatalogManager instead of directly exposing CatalogStore?
> > > > > By only providing the `getCatalogDescriptor()` interface, it may be
> > > > > easier
> > > > > for us to implement audit tracking in CatalogManager in the future.
> > > > > WDYT ?
> > > > > Although we have only collected some modified events at the
> > > > > moment.[1]
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1].
> > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-294%3A+Support+Customized+Catalog+Modification+Listener
> > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Feng
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:31 PM Jingsong Li jingsongl...@gmail.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > +1 for this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We are missing a series of catalog related syntaxes.
> > > > > > Especially after the introduction of catalog store. [1]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [1]
> > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-295%3A+Support+lazy+initialization+of+catalogs+and+persistence+of+catalog+configurations
> > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Jingsong
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 5:09 PM Yubin Li lyb5...@gmail.com
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi devs,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'd like to start a discussion about FLIP-436: Introduce "SHOW
> > > > > > > CREATE
> > > > > > > CATALOG" Syntax [1].
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > At present, the `SHOW CREATE TABLE` statement provides strong
> > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > users to easily
> > > > > > > reuse created tables. However, despite the increasing importance
> > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > `Catalog` in user's
> > > > > > > business, there is no similar statement for users to use.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > According to the online discussion in FLINK-24939 [2] with Jark
> > > > > > > Wu
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > Feng
> > > > > > > Jin, since `CatalogStore`
> > > > > > > has been introduced in FLIP-295 [3], we could use this component
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > implement such a long-awaited
> > > > > > > feature, Please refer to the document [1] for implementation
> > > > > > > details.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > examples as follows:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Flink SQL> create catalog cat2 WITH ('type'='generic_in_memory',
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 'default-database'='db');
> > > > > > > > [INFO] Execute statement succeeded.
> > > > > > > > Flink SQL> show create catalog cat2;
> > 
> > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > 
> > > > > > > > | result |
> > 
> > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > 
> > > > > > > > | CREATE CATALOG `cat2` WITH (
> > > > > > > > 'default-database' = 'db',
> > > > > > > > 'type' = 'generic_in_memory'
> > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > > |
> > 
> > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> > 
> > > > > > > > 1 row in set
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you, thanks!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Yubin
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [1]
> > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=296290756
> > 
> > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24939
> > > > > > > [3]
> > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-295%3A+Support+lazy+initialization+of+catalogs+and+persistence+of+catalog+configurations

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