+1.
Thank you for the explanation!

Donat


On 2022. Apr 1., Fri at 16:21 Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> My primary objection is it burns a major version number for no good
> reason, provides no useful information, and is misleading.
>
> 1. The following release is going to be a major release as there will be
> significant changes to how flume is packaged and maintained. So we will
> have a 2.0 that changes nothing important followed by 3.0 that does.
> 2. A major version number implies user customizations likely need to be
> modified. That is not the case.
> 3. Anyone still using ES 0.90.1 almost certainly doesn’t care about the
> release.
>
> In the end, it sends the wrong message to users. Nothing significant
> changed as the ES support is unusable as it stands.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Apr 1, 2022, at 12:42 AM, Bessenyei Balázs Donát <bes...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> Donat, I don’t want to do anything until I am sure we have consensus on
> how to proceed. Will you go along with removing ES from the 1.10.0 release?
> >
> > I don't mean to block any work here and I haven't found anywhere that
> > Flume follows semantic versioning. Still, I'd like to understand why
> > we can't make any next release 2.0.
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Donat
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 9:02 AM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Sean Busbey <sbus...@apple.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At some point you have to drop the older versions that are no longer
> supported by the project they target. That typically does not warrant a
> major version update.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW I still agree we should drop the ES module, but in general we
> should avoid changes that break what systems flume can talk without having
> a major version change. In the future I’d strongly prefer we increment our
> major version number as we drop these older modules. Hopefully once we have
> a regular release cadence we can set some expectations about how often that
> will be.
> >>>
> >>
> >> As I said previously, when we split things up in 2.0 I think this will
> become much less of a problem. Instead of increasing the major version
> number of Flume, providing a version compatible with something recent and
> removing the old version would have caused the major version number for
> flume-elasticsearch to increase. Ideally, the core components of Flume
> would only see a major version increase when there are significant changes
> to it, not to dependencies.
> >>
> >> Donat, I don’t want to do anything until I am sure we have consensus on
> how to proceed. Will you go along with removing ES from the 1.10.0 release?
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
>
>

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