Ok here it goes :-)
I am apparently one of the few (non-commiter) persons who had the
pleasure to try a few things on the M4 QA using Tomcat. I tried this
yesterday and had a lengthly discussion with Jeff.
1. It took me 5 attempts to get the commenting/uncommenting of the DD's
right, since I wasn't aware that a comment ending '--->' doesn't lead to
a successful compilation (actually the last three attempts were needed
to find the places where I did this wrong :-) ). Quite a bit frustrating
but probably my fault.
2. I am not too sure at the moment if new users really need Tomcat that
much anyway, I think the Jetty container works just as well (at least
for me), so I think putting the switch into (a hopefully soon arriving)
M5 is perfectly fine for me. IF there is someone EXTREMELY interested in
Tomcat he can still do it manually.
3. Maybe I understand this wrong, but isn't it possible to offer two M4
binary versions (one with Jetty perconfigured, and one with Tomcat)? The
new feature in M5 will then be that the user decides during installation
(izpack) which config he wants, so we don't need two binary versions
anymore... Maybe I got this wrongly, but if I got this right then I
don't understand this discussion :-).
Just a side remark, yesterday (after successful building of the Tomcat
version) we discovered a bug in the Tomcat codebase. To solve this and
get it into M4 is more important for me. What's the point delivering
Tomcat through a nice installation feature in M4 but with a bug that
prevents the deployment of my application...
Hope this helped,
Stefan
Bruce Snyder wrote:
On 7/20/05, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jeff Genender wrote:
Ok...fair enough...then how far out would M5 be (estimates)? IMHO,
waiting for the time between M3->M4 cannot be between M4-> M5. If it is
going to be that long, then +1000 to get it in now. If its a fairly
short period, then waiting will not be a big deal.
Blevins was talking about release early, often. Adding this change in
can only delay M4 and as we are talking M5 in just a few weeks I would
say stick with the current branch and use this as an incentive to get M5
out soon.
I'd like to hear some opinions from community members who are not
committers. If you are reading this message and you are not a
committer, PLEASE SPEAK UP! We want to hear your opinion on this
matter.
Bruce
