How does the script know to pick it up. Got a cli example of how the invoke would look?

--jason


On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:

Use case needed now:

Terracotta is developing a plugin.  It needs to pass a setting to the
JVM (i.e. -xbootclasspath=).  So when the Geronimo script is run, it
needs to pick up this "setting" from a script that is installed by the
plugin.  The script would normally set a JAVA_OPTS and the geronimo.sh
script would then pick this up.

These scripts would be installed by plugins (or created by someone), but the great part is, when the plugin is uninstalled, the script goes away,
and the options are not set.

Did this make sense?

Jeff



Jason Dillon wrote:
Can you provide a wee bit detail on hat the use cases are you have in
mind?  I'm still a bit fuzzy what you are going for.

--jason


On Jul 16, 2007, at 6:09 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:



Jason Dillon wrote:
I still think that G could do with a tiny bootstrap JVM to handle all of the required flags and properties that are needed now for the server to opperate properly (and in a platform neutral manner). This could also be used to spawn clones or cluster nodes. As well as handling remote
restarts and recovery from JVM crashes.

Ok...cool...wanna help? ;-)

If we can have a GShell, etc set an env property like JAVA_OPTS, please
how an example and I am all game ;-)

Jeff


IMO this is critical for uber massive enterprise deployments as well as
smaller scale cluster management.

I also think that GShell would be ideal for the base platform for such a
bootstrap JVM.

I think it should be realativly easy to setup a POC if folks are
interested.

--jason

P.S. Typed on my iPhone. Still not quite as fast as my blackberry...
But I dropped in beer at the Giants/Doggers game.  Ooops ;-)


On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Donald Woods wrote:
Is this a scenario that would be better handled by the gshell code in
sandbox or some daemon code that also handles the multiple server
instance support?
Thought here, would be gshell could read a standard Java properties
file
for JVM args and then launch the server with them.....


As long as one JVM launches, the other (ie. gshell or groovy can start another instance of a JVM) then this is doable. Otherwise, this won't
work...with my Terracotta example being a reason.

In my eyes, scripts are a no-go, unless you can make them platform neutral and not require users to install a third-party solution like
Perl (on Windows) to make it work.

We already ship sh and bat code...why would this be a no-go?  If
this is
the case, then we shouldn't be shipping startup scripts in bat and sh
format.



-Donald


Jeff Genender wrote:
Hi,

As we move forward and we integrate with more and more 3rd party
products, we will need the ability to be able to change an
environment
variable through a plugin, or add a commandline JAVA_OPTS, etc.

Currently our startup scripts call the setjavaenv.sh to set
environment
properties. It would really be nice to have the ability to have a "scripts" directory, where all of the scripts get executed before
Geronimo is launched.  Why do we want this?

As we grow in our plugins, they will need to set environment or java options set before running G. They may also have a need to start or
run
other outside processes  that are not a part of G.

It would be great to allow plugins to install an rc script that gets
executed to do activities before and perhaps after G is run?

I would propose we create a scripts directory under bin or under var that could be similar to init.d, and have it called with start/stop,
etc.  This way plugins can install specific scripts in these
directories
for execution.

Thoughts?

Jeff



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