I'm also getting worried that the plugin groups are starting to duplicate the plugins and wondering if the concept is providing significant value beyond the framework plugin group.

Also, I think that the current jms console stuff is unlikely to survive in anything like its current form for activemq 5. The last time I talked with the amq developers they indicated pretty strongly that trying to reconfigure a running broker was not safe and that editing the broker (xbean-spring) plan and restarting was the desired approach.

thanks
david jencks

On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:45 AM, Lin Sun wrote:

These are the console plugin groups, basically it provides the
required console function for the javaee5 assemblies.   I think the
list suggested the following profiles a while back ago:
JMS
EJB
Web Services
Admin Console
...

Also, I need the console plugin group to construct the javaee5 plugin
groups/assemblies.

Regarding activemq-console-xxx, my initial thought was to include it
in the JMS plugin group, but I realize that you are working on the
optional console and people may not want the JMS console function when
they want JMS function (for example, there is one user trying to add
JMS on top of little G).   When you have your optional console stuff
in, you can remove the optional ones from the console plugin group.

Plugin groups are basically groups of plugins for users to easily
understand and consume them.  They can be used in the following ways:
1. custom server assemblies
2. G server assemblies (framework, javaee5)
3. install plugin group as regular plugin.  For example, a user should
be able to install the JMS plugin group in little G to get little G +
JMS environment.

Lin

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Donald Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why are we recreating the existing console-jetty and console-tomcat as yet
another plugin?

Also, why are you including optional console plugins like
activemq-console-xxx, which should only be included if the ActiveMQ plugins are installed? By including it here, you're basically pulling in the JMS
plugins.

I'm starting to reconsider why we need plugingroups, if we're going to have to recreate dozens of existing plugins just in a slightly different format
just so we can include them in a special view just for custom server
assemblies....



-Donald


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Author: linsun
Date: Tue Oct  7 12:09:59 2008
New Revision: 702586

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Log:
Add the console-jetty plugin group

Added:
  geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/
geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/pom.xml (with props)
  geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/
  geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/
  geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/

geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ dependencies.xml
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  geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/plan/

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12:09:59 2008
@@ -0,0 +1,98 @@
+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
+<!--
+    Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
+    or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
+    distributed with this work for additional information
+    regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
+    to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
+    "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
+    with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+    +     http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+    +    Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
+    software distributed under the License is distributed on an
+    "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
+    KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
+    specific language governing permissions and limitations
+    under the License.
+-->
+<!-- @version $Rev$ $Date$ -->
+
+<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0
http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd";>
+
+    <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
+
+    <parent>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugingroups</groupId>
+        <artifactId>plugingroups</artifactId>
+        <version>2.2-SNAPSHOT</version>
+    </parent>
+
+    <artifactId>console-jetty</artifactId>
+    <packaging>car</packaging>
+    <name>Geronimo Plugin Group :: Admin Console Jetty</name>
+
+    <description>
+ This plugin group provides Admin Console Jetty functionality.
+    </description>
+
+    <dependencies>
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.configs</groupId>
+            <artifactId>ca-helper-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>agent</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>mconsole-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>activemq-console-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>debugviews-console-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>plancreator-console-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>plugin-console-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+
+        <dependency>
+            <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+            <artifactId>sysdb-console-jetty</artifactId>
+            <version>${version}</version>
+            <type>car</type>
+        </dependency>
+    </dependencies>
+</project>
+

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geronimo/server/trunk/plugingroups/console-jetty/src/main/history/ dependencies.xml
Tue Oct  7 12:09:59 2008
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+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
+<plugin-artifact
xmlns:ns2="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/attributes-1.2";
xmlns="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/plugins-1.3";>
+    <module-id>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugingroups</groupId>
+        <artifactId>console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <version>2.2-SNAPSHOT</version>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </module-id>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>plancreator-console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>sysdb-console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>activemq-console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>plugin-console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.configs</groupId>
+        <artifactId>ca-helper-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>debugviews-console-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>mconsole-jetty</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+    <dependency>
+        <groupId>org.apache.geronimo.plugins</groupId>
+        <artifactId>agent</artifactId>
+        <type>car</type>
+    </dependency>
+</plugin-artifact>

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