Futher, if the old docs are taken out, it would leave a structure that's much more focused on a the newest version, and thus reduce the likeliness of GoogleBot seeing the pages as being too similar. GoogleBot is very sensitive with this and sometimes sees 2 completely irrelevant pages as being similar. I've found on 2 occasions that changing the wording on one page could cause another page to suddenly appear with the next index. This could be coincidence, as many reasons could cause a page to become indexed, but the similarity seems most probably since looking at the 2 pages you could understand how a bot could see them as similar.
Further, updating the documentation with basic SEO in mind, and improving the link webs should help get more pages indexed - and possibly even listed higher. Quintin Beukes On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Quintin Beukes <quin...@skywalk.co.za> wrote: > The 2.2 docs are on google. In fact, all the versions are there. By > default it only lists 1/2 similar pages, and the rest can be viewed by > clicking on the "more results" link. > > From what I could see on the pages, the reason 1.1 docs are listed > first is an SEO issue, in that the 1.1 docs contain the word Geronimo > more, and has a ranked page linking to it. To host all the > documentation online would make a for a major SEO task added onto the > list. Maybe the best would be to add the old docs into an "archive" > (another domain would be best), link into the archive, and have only > the latest docs actually stored on the xwiki.apache.org domain. I > don't know if this is possible, but it should definitely clear up the > documentation issue. > > If you're unlucky the archive ends up ranking higher than the original > and you're back to where you started, though I think that would be > unlikely if there is a link trail to Geronimo from the xwiki root, and > back up wards (and the same for all apps). This should keep the rank > tree farely high, and an archive would be unlikely to overtake it. > > I'm no SEO expert, so this might not be the best advice, but it would > be what I would have done. > > Quintin Beukes > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Ellen Tang <ltang.el...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, I found that the "I'm feeling lucky" function only takes you to the >> first website listed in Google responding to your query. This is why you are >> directed to 1.1 docs instead of 2.1. But I do see the problem that 2.2 docs >> are not listed in Google. >> >> I've seen the Confluence help pages with the links of the latest version as >> you suggested. It works very well on the Confluence websites. I think it's a >> very good function but yet takes a lot effort to implement because we have >> so many pages and versions of G docs right now. Plus, once we have a new >> release, all the links need to be updated. As discussed with Jeff, we can >> first try to make our latest docs display in Google. >> >> Please let us know if you have any suggestions for that. Thank you! >> >> Best regards, >> Ellen >> >> 2009/10/1 Juergen Weber <webe...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Fixing the links doesn't seem to be the general solution, >>> e.g. with >>> geronimo ra.xml and "I'm feeling lucky" you get the 1.1 docs, even if >>> google >>> knows the 2.1 docs. >>> There should be a friendly big red box on old pages "There exists a more >>> recent version of this page" with a link to it. >>> >>> Greetings, Juergen >>> >>> >>> Ellen Tang-2 wrote: >>> > >>> > I've tried to find the page of the same topic (Daytrader) in >>> > documentation >>> > v2.1 by changing the link directly from >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html to >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/daytrader.html . The page does open >>> > and >>> > has correct contents, but when I tried to find the link of the same >>> > topic >>> > in >>> > the table of contents of v2.1 documentation ( >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/documentation.html ), I couldn't find >>> > the >>> > link for the "Daytrader" page, which does exist. >>> > >>> > I guess that this is why the google search can't find the page of >>> > "Daytrader" in Geronimo v2.1 documentation. >>> > >>> > Jeff, maybe you can have a check for this to see if you get the same >>> > result >>> > as me. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > Ellen >>> > >>> > 2009/9/30 chi runhua <chirun...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> >> I think it's the problem of the template in auto-export plugin, but >>> >> only >>> >> confluence admin could do some configuration to update the template. >>> >> >>> >> Jeff C >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ellen Tang >>> >> <ltang.el...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi Juergen, >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess that could be a good thing to do. We'll discuss about that to >>> >>> see >>> >>> if it's possible and necessary to do that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for your idea! >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Ellen >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/9/28 Juergen Weber <webe...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> googling often leads to an old version of a Geronimo wiki page. >>> >>>> e.g. google daytrader apache goes to >>> >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Can you somehow make the wiki automatically display links to the most >>> >>>> recent >>> >>>> version? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>> >>>> Juergen >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> View this message in context: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> http://www.nabble.com/Wiki-link-to-current-version-page-tp25645167s134p25645167.html >>> >>>> Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Dev mailing list archive at >>> >>>> Nabble.com. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/Wiki-link-to-current-version-page-tp25645167s134p25685083.html >>> Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> >
