Hi Quintin, Thank you for your advice. That's very useful for us. I'll look into SEO and try to make our pages better.
Best regards, Ellen 2009/10/14 Quintin Beukes <[email protected]> > Futher, if the old docs are taken out, it would leave a structure > that's much more focused on a the newest version, and thus reduce the > likeliness of GoogleBot seeing the pages as being too similar. > GoogleBot is very sensitive with this and sometimes sees 2 completely > irrelevant pages as being similar. I've found on 2 occasions that > changing the wording on one page could cause another page to suddenly > appear with the next index. This could be coincidence, as many reasons > could cause a page to become indexed, but the similarity seems most > probably since looking at the 2 pages you could understand how a bot > could see them as similar. > > Further, updating the documentation with basic SEO in mind, and > improving the link webs should help get more pages indexed - and > possibly even listed higher. > > Quintin Beukes > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Quintin Beukes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The 2.2 docs are on google. In fact, all the versions are there. By > > default it only lists 1/2 similar pages, and the rest can be viewed by > > clicking on the "more results" link. > > > > From what I could see on the pages, the reason 1.1 docs are listed > > first is an SEO issue, in that the 1.1 docs contain the word Geronimo > > more, and has a ranked page linking to it. To host all the > > documentation online would make a for a major SEO task added onto the > > list. Maybe the best would be to add the old docs into an "archive" > > (another domain would be best), link into the archive, and have only > > the latest docs actually stored on the xwiki.apache.org domain. I > > don't know if this is possible, but it should definitely clear up the > > documentation issue. > > > > If you're unlucky the archive ends up ranking higher than the original > > and you're back to where you started, though I think that would be > > unlikely if there is a link trail to Geronimo from the xwiki root, and > > back up wards (and the same for all apps). This should keep the rank > > tree farely high, and an archive would be unlikely to overtake it. > > > > I'm no SEO expert, so this might not be the best advice, but it would > > be what I would have done. > > > > Quintin Beukes > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Ellen Tang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, I found that the "I'm feeling lucky" function only takes you to the > >> first website listed in Google responding to your query. This is why you > are > >> directed to 1.1 docs instead of 2.1. But I do see the problem that 2.2 > docs > >> are not listed in Google. > >> > >> I've seen the Confluence help pages with the links of the latest version > as > >> you suggested. It works very well on the Confluence websites. I think > it's a > >> very good function but yet takes a lot effort to implement because we > have > >> so many pages and versions of G docs right now. Plus, once we have a new > >> release, all the links need to be updated. As discussed with Jeff, we > can > >> first try to make our latest docs display in Google. > >> > >> Please let us know if you have any suggestions for that. Thank you! > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Ellen > >> > >> 2009/10/1 Juergen Weber <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> Fixing the links doesn't seem to be the general solution, > >>> e.g. with > >>> geronimo ra.xml and "I'm feeling lucky" you get the 1.1 docs, even if > >>> google > >>> knows the 2.1 docs. > >>> There should be a friendly big red box on old pages "There exists a > more > >>> recent version of this page" with a link to it. > >>> > >>> Greetings, Juergen > >>> > >>> > >>> Ellen Tang-2 wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I've tried to find the page of the same topic (Daytrader) in > >>> > documentation > >>> > v2.1 by changing the link directly from > >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html to > >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/daytrader.html . The page does > open > >>> > and > >>> > has correct contents, but when I tried to find the link of the same > >>> > topic > >>> > in > >>> > the table of contents of v2.1 documentation ( > >>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/documentation.html ), I couldn't > find > >>> > the > >>> > link for the "Daytrader" page, which does exist. > >>> > > >>> > I guess that this is why the google search can't find the page of > >>> > "Daytrader" in Geronimo v2.1 documentation. > >>> > > >>> > Jeff, maybe you can have a check for this to see if you get the same > >>> > result > >>> > as me. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks! > >>> > > >>> > Ellen > >>> > > >>> > 2009/9/30 chi runhua <[email protected]> > >>> > > >>> >> I think it's the problem of the template in auto-export plugin, but > >>> >> only > >>> >> confluence admin could do some configuration to update the template. > >>> >> > >>> >> Jeff C > >>> >> > >>> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ellen Tang > >>> >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> Hi Juergen, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I guess that could be a good thing to do. We'll discuss about that > to > >>> >>> see > >>> >>> if it's possible and necessary to do that. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Thank you for your idea! > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Best regards, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Ellen > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 2009/9/28 Juergen Weber <[email protected]> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> Hi, > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> googling often leads to an old version of a Geronimo wiki page. > >>> >>>> e.g. google daytrader apache goes to > >>> >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Can you somehow make the wiki automatically display links to the > most > >>> >>>> recent > >>> >>>> version? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Thanks, > >>> >>>> Juergen > >>> >>>> -- > >>> >>>> View this message in context: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > http://www.nabble.com/Wiki-link-to-current-version-page-tp25645167s134p25645167.html > >>> >>>> Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Dev mailing list archive at > >>> >>>> Nabble.com. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> View this message in context: > >>> > http://www.nabble.com/Wiki-link-to-current-version-page-tp25645167s134p25685083.html > >>> Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>> > >> > >> > > >
