I concur with most points except for the $ aspect. I’d simply leave it out.
Sent from my primitive tricorder > On May 10, 2019, at 17:38, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote: > > Good summary Søren. Let me add my 5 Gents to maybe advance the topic further: > Since I think that this is the easiest: Anybody who is against taking funds > out of FOG (Friends of Groovy) for this in principle should speak up now or > 4ever hold his peace G-) > As a ballpark number / discussion point I would suggest $250 to $500 for the > award - what do you gals & guys think ? Too high ? Too low ? > My suggestion would be to award it for work done recently (i.e. not > life-time), in part for the practical reason that I think it would be easier > to agree on a person here, and it would be faster to get this whole thing off > the ground... (Disclaimer: I have argued for non-lifetime before based on > additional reasons) > One important open question, as you point out, is: Who should be allowed to > vote ? PMC (maybe too restrictive) ? FOG contributors ? Everyone who has been > on the dev or user mailing list for a year ? > Note: Letting everyone vote would worry me, since I have personally witnessed > votes like that being manipulated/rigged (all in the name of "well, democracy > has spoken..."), by someone who has 50 Facebook friends... > Shall the vote be "most votes wins", or a decision between the e.g. two > people with the highest number of votes, or... ? > Shall the vote be changeable (i.e. everybody sees how many votes everybody > currently has, and the votes can be shifted, until the voting is over) ? > Is the voting going to be informal e.g. through posting on the mailing list, > or would we want to use a web site/service for this (which ? requires more > effort...) ? > Shall the award be virtual, or tied to a physical manifestation ? If > physical, I would suggest something like a mug, since it is something you can > put on your desk, or actually use if you so choose (I have experience > designing things and would volunteer to design (the print on) such a mug). > Other suggestions of course welcome G-) > (GR8Conf could work, if people would nominate some Groovy conbtributors (in > the broader sense) within the next week, and voting could then be open for > one week after that...) > > Cheers, > mg > > >> On 09/05/2019 17:12, Søren Berg Glasius wrote: >> Let me see, if I can summarize the story (from over 50 mails) >> >> There is a general +1 (14ish) right now on making a Groovy Award, and a >> majority of people who are in favor of the "Groovy Star" award name, both >> because it has a nice ring to it, because it can be associated with the >> Groovy logo, and because it sounds a bit like Java Rockstars. >> >> There also seems to be a general consensus that it can be given to core >> comitters, but also to people who contribute to frameworks/libraries in the >> ecosystem, and to people who in other ways (community work, conference >> organizers etc) makes an impact for the community. >> >> There is a discussion, wether it should be awarded as an award for a given >> year vs a lifetime archivement award. This is still something that needs to >> be agreed uppon. >> >> Besides being an honor to receive an award, it has also been suggested that >> there could be a monitary reward, to be regcognized by becoming a "comitter" >> or PMC member. If it is monetary the money could come from Friends of >> Groovy, if that can be agreed uppon. >> >> Awards could be announced at Groovy related conferences (GR8Conf, Greach, >> devnexus2gm or others) >> >> There need to be a discussion on how the nominees are appointed, and who >> decides on who will get the award. >> >> From a personal point of view (and from the view of being a conference >> organizer) I would love to be able to hand out an award like this. But it >> seems that we're too late for GR8Conf at the end of this month. >> >> I hope I have captured most of the discussion bullets, otherwise feel free >> to correct me. >> >> Have a gr8 day >> >> >> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen, >> Søren Berg Glasius >> >> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark >> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius >> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes. >> >> >>> On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 23:44, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote: >>> Yes, I think that is the way to go. The Apache Groovy project recognizes >>> contributors to the project through making them committers and/or PMC >>> members. The Groovy Star awards were always proposed to be about the whole >>> community. That sits better with Friends-of-Groovy in my mind which also >>> has a whole community brief. >>> >>> Cheers, Paul. >>> >>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:55 AM Milles, Eric (TR Tech, Content & Ops) >>>> <eric.mil...@thomsonreuters.com> wrote: >>>> Can the open collective team recognize significant achievements in the >>>> community and make awards? You could announce one award per major >>>> conference (Gr8conf, Greach, Whatever2gm). >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Søren Berg Glasius <soe...@glasius.dk> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 9:50 AM >>>> To: dev@groovy.apache.org >>>> Cc: Jochen Theodorou >>>> Subject: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback >>>> >>>> How can we revive this discussion? I still think it's relevant. >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen, >>>> Søren Berg Glasius >>>> >>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark >>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius >>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 at 17:40, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote: >>>> ...and, of course, the >>>> >>>> Apache Groovy Community Lifetime Achievement Award >>>> >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> Like the name, +1 (again) on tying the award to a specific year, don't >>>> think that mixing commit access with the award makes sense (as in >>>> programming: Keep things single purpose - nobdy wants to be fat, be it >>>> class or human ;-) ) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02.03.2018 10:11, Jochen Theodorou wrote: >>>> > hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I was thinking a while about all this and all the problems involved >>>> > here and I want to show an alternative. >>>> > >>>> > Apache Groovy Community Award >>>> > >>>> > Name surely to be changed. The idea is to give a nominal award for >>>> > what they did in the past. Somebody getting this award will get this >>>> > for a reason, which is to be stated. >>>> > >>>> > Since it is no title like "champion" and since we can give a >>>> > description of the reasons the award will be always specific, it is >>>> > not a title you carry around your lifetime and all of that. Maybe a >>>> > person could be awarded multiple times, but that is then to decide. >>>> > That means there will be no discussions about revoking the >>>> > championship, or for how long this is granted. Also I think the award >>>> > leaves better space for a good naming. Also we can give commit access >>>> > along with it, which may or may not be taken, but then includes the >>>> > official ASF way of recognizing people. >>>> > >>>> > what do you guys think? >>>> > >>>> > bye Jochen >>>> > >>>> >
