Mikhail Loenko wrote: > 2006/11/27, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Mikhail Loenko wrote: >> >> > Not sure that when we elect an official benchmark we should take >> > into account whether it's open or not. >> >> You're kidding, right? > > no. not at all
Then you have to realize that not everybody has the $$$ or the intention to spend money to help us optimize Harmony. No, worse: such carelessness for open participation is poisonous to the creation a more diverse and distributed development community. This is not an closed-development project anymore, the rules have changed: we need to think in terms of lowering participation obstacles, not in terms of pleasing our upper management or our potential customers. Our main and only objective is to please our users, and reducing the barrier for them to become developers as much as we possibly can. And that sometimes includes making compromises with our own personal (or job-related) interests. If you (or anybody else around you) care about those, you are more than welcome to continue on that path, submit code changes, results and ideas... but pretending that an entire community bases its performance results on something potential developers would have to pay to get access to is equivalent of destroying the ability for non-corporate-sponsored individuals to help in that space. And, I'm sorry, but such discrimination won't make me (and a lot of people like me) happy. Let me be crystal clear: you are and will continue to be *more than welcome* to benchmark with anything you (or anybody around you) cares about and work with those results. But benchmarks have two objectives: show the current performance status *and* allow potential developers to test if their changes have made a positive impact before submitting them. Now that we are an open development project, we must learn, collectively, to think in terms of 'what can I do to acquire more development participation', not only in terms of 'what can I do to acquire more users'. DaCapo fits both goals very well. Spec fits the first, partially. And, finally, I don't care if Spec it's the industry standard: if we were driven by following what everybody else was doing, there would be no Harmony in the first place. -- Stefano.
