Re: contribution of treemap modification(s) ?

[charlie hunt]

Thanks Oliver!

I am back from vacation and picking up where I left off.
I think the "safe" way to go is the ACQ and BCC route.  Although I was 
the person who made modifications & additions to the source code, I do 
not own the rights to those modifications & additions, Sun Microsystems 
does.

I will proceed to work the ACQ and BCC process with the appropriate 
folks at Sun.  This will likely take a little time due to the nature of 
the documents and the additional personnel who will need to be involved.

As someone once said to me, "patience is a virtue".

charlie ...

Oliver Deakin wrote:
Hi Charlie,

The full rules for submitting a bulk contribution are at the bottom of 
[1]. An ACQ is required for the contributor of the bulk contribution 
(yourself) and also for any authors of the TreeMap code you are 
contributing (which is just yourself as well from the sound of 
things). You also need to submit a Bulk Contribution Checklist [2].

I believe scans of both the ACQ and BCC need to be mailed to the 
private PMC mailing list, found on [3].

Regards,
Oliver

[1] http://harmony.apache.org/contribution_policy.html
[2] http://harmony.apache.org/bulk_contribution_checklist.html
[3] http://harmony.apache.org/mailing.html

charlie hunt wrote:
Alexei,

I have no problem with the ACQ, nor do I think Sun has a problem with 
it.  I am filling out the ACQ as I draft this note.  Just wanted to 
avoid some unnecessary steps if they were not needed.

I may have missed where to send the ACQ ... is there an e-mail 
address where to send it too or a fax number to send too?

thanks,

charlie ...

Alexei Fedotov wrote:
Charlie,
Hope Tim will reply soon to your request.

As for ACQ, you can check yourself the last case [1] with the Google
Android. No ACQ + very good intentions to contribute things back means
no donation.


[1] http://markmail.org/thread/dtnzrj3oagtpnkfm


2009/4/8 charlie hunt <charlie.h...@sun.com>:
 
Alexei,

I understand Tim is on vacation / holidays this week.

Can I assume you are acting "Harmony lead" in Tim's absence?

Wouldn't Sun already have an agreement with Apache which would 
satisfy the
needs of the ACQ?

If it pleases you and Harmony, I will fill out the ACQ. (Sorry, I 
just don't
fully understand why it's needed for what we're trying to 
accomplish).  Can
you tell me where and the suggested format to send it?

thanks,

charlie ....

Alexei Fedotov wrote:
  
Charlie,
There is no way to give code back to Harmony without filling ACQ. 
This
form guarantees that you do not give Sun's private IP to Apache
Harmony which is a "clean room" implementation.

Thanks.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, charlie hunt 
<charlie.h...@sun.com> wrote:

    
Ok ... I'm back.

Tim:  Some questions below.   Sorry to be overly cautious here.  
But, I
want
direction from you on moving forward with this.

For others who have asked other questions .... I will get to those
questions
unrelated to getting these modifications to Harmony once we get 
that task
out of the way.  Please bear with me ... first things first. :-)

If possible I would like to get this transaction completed today 
since I
am
planning to be on holidays / vacation Thursday & Friday.

Questions for Tim:

Just to be clear on the TreeMap artifact.  The modifications are
enhancements which made to a TreeMap 5 from the Harmony 
repository where
we
added / implemented the Java 6 APIs to make it Java 6 compliant.
 Although I
was the author of the changes / enhancements, I do not own this 
rights to
the code that was added, Sun owns it and Sun wishes to give these
changes/enhancements to Harmony.

1.) I looked over the "detailed contribution policy".  At first 
glance it
looks a little daunting. ;-)  It seems a little heavyweight for 
what we
are
trying to accomplish which is merely giving Harmony the 
modifications to
java.util.TreeMap.  Do we need to do:
a.) Authorized Contributor Questionnaire:  This looks to be 
applicable if
one is wanting to be a (long term) committer to the project.  
That is not
my
intention. I merely would like to give Harmony the modifications 
made to
your TreeMap 5.  Do you really need this Authorized Contributor
Questionnaire?  Would there be some kind of "blanket" agreement 
between
Sun
& Apache which would make this transaction much easier?  Sun makes
contributions and has contributors on many different Apache 
projects.
 (Fwiw, I am not trying to delay or slow the transaction.  I am 
trying to
figure out the easiest and quickest way to make this transaction 
occur.)
b.) I am certainly not an expert at this topic.  But, after 
reading the
"Contribution Policy", it looks to me as if this contribution 
falls under
the "Bulk Contribution"?  Would you agree?

Assuming you agree this contribution falls under the "Bulk 
Contribution",
what is the typical artifacts put in JIRA and is this something 
we can do
ahead of satisfying the "Software Grant or CCLA" which might already
exist
for Sun?  If this falls under a "Bulk Contribution" do you need the
"Authorized Contributor Questionnaire" from me?

Sorry to be full of questions ... this is something that is 
totally new
and
foreign to me. :-(

thanks,

charlie hunt ...

charlie hunt wrote:

      
Tim,

Since you're essentially the person who's the face of Harmony these
days,
I would like to ask you to help me (a novice) with this process.

Hope you don't mind some silly / stupid questions.  :-/  I'm an
engineer.
Not an open source license and processes expert.  In other 
words, I do
not
want to unknowingly do something that is harmful to either party
involved.
 This also why I haven't put the code in front of you at this 
point,
i.e. I
want to know exactly what's needed for artifacts before moving too
quickly
and putting the code in front of you.  Open source projects tend 
to be
pretty sensitive about how they receive contributions.  I would 
like to
honor and follow Harmony's wishes wrt this TreeMap you will be
receiving.
Hope you understand my concerns.

I will back shortly with a few questions.   I need to get my son 
off to
school.

Be back shortly.

thanks,

charlie ...

Tim Ellison wrote:

        
Yep, that is the contibution policy.

If there are any questions about it just ask.

Regards,
Tim

On Apr 8, 2009 9:35 AM, "Egor Pasko" <egor.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

On the 0x58D day of Apache Harmony Davanum Srinivas wrote: > 
Charlie, >
            Typical contribution to an...
here is the detailed contribution policy:
http://harmony.apache.org/contribution_policy.html

My guess is that your contribution falls into the "Bulk 
Contributions"
category. Tim knows this subject a lot better. Let's wait for 
him to
speak up.

--
Egor Pasko