Jimmy, JFYI, Alexey Petrenko & company created select builds for Tomcat and Eclipse. What will make your approach more successful?
-- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://www.telecom-express.ru/ http://harmony.apache.org/ http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/ 2010/5/26 Jimmy,Jing Lv <firep...@gmail.com>: > Hi Alexei Fedotov, > > I don't know Alexey Petrenko's experiment, interested in that, please > tell us if you have more information. > > I agree whole cycle of application support should be very great for > the applications - but it sounds like some commercial activities rather than > open source development. However for open source projects, I believe it will > be a great if we can support some real application or even become their > default JRE, especially some hot open source Apps, as eclipse + Harmony, or > Harmony in Android/WebOS, though they use different VM and don't come back > much any more ;) . > > I don't have any particular customers in mind, just think we'd look > for a different and flexible solution for various of applications. What do > you think? > > 2010/5/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> Jimmy, why are you doing these select builds? Alexey Petrenko have >> shown that even the finest bundling won't make Harmony more popular. >> People these days want usability and the whole cycle of application >> support. Do you have a particular customer in mind? >> >> >> >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://www.telecom-express.ru/ >> http://harmony.apache.org/ >> http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/ >> >> >> >> >> 2010/5/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>: >> > Hadoop is an interesting choice, because it is used for application >> > hosting. Though much more common choice would be Tomcat or Jetty. >> > >> > -- >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > http://www.telecom-express.ru/ >> > http://harmony.apache.org/ >> > http://dataved.ru/ http://klsh.ru/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jimmy,Jing Lv <firep...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >> We are very close to publish Harmony5 M14 and Harmony6 M2, what >> great >> >> achievements since we created Harmony project! >> >> >> >> Now we may think about something different, satisfy more >> requirements. >> >> Different application requirement need different JRE - it may differ >> very >> >> much in class-lib modules, providers, and VMs. Harmony select, say, a >> >> smaller, more flexible harmony runtime, may be a good candidate in such >> >> environments. We may not follow Oracle/Sun exactly in this runtime, >> allow >> >> more innovations, different modules selections, and different >> >> functionalities to meet different requirements. We may also call for >> more >> >> input from real Java applications, developers, especially hot >> open-source >> >> projects who are the potential customers of Harmony. >> >> >> >> We've already created an initial target in Harmony to build a >> Select >> >> binary. We remove some client-side related modules (like AWT, swing etc) >> to >> >> reduce the size while keep the main functionality for server side >> >> applications. This is a startup, very far from the finial versions. >> However >> >> I believe we can start some milestones with defined criterion like >> standard >> >> Harmony. >> >> >> >> For the first milestone of Harmony-Select, I suggest we'd have >> >> following criterion: >> >> 1. build pass on both windows/linux platforms; >> >> 2. pass all Harmony unit testcases in the selected module on these >> >> platforms; >> >> 3. Choose Apache Hadoop as a real Application test, pass its common test >> on >> >> these platforms for the first milestone. >> >> >> >> Wait for any kindly suggestions, opinions and comments. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Best Regards! >> >> >> >> Jimmy, Jing Lv >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- > > Best Regards! > > Jimmy, Jing Lv > China Software Development Lab, IBM >
