If we can't rely on PE, then why do we keep it? ;)

I think that even if it loads the local hard drive, we can still
compare the 2 results because it does the same thing against the 2
versions. So if one version uses more the hard drive than another one,
then even with 12 drives and 100 nodes, it will still use more the
hard drive than the previous version. Goal here is really to compare 2
versions together, and not the performances.

Now, to make sure that I can run comparisons as good as possible, what
is the minimum hardware requirement? Are 3 dedicated servers enought?
(1RS+MS and 2RS) Or should I really go with 1 master + 3RS as a
minimum to have relevant results? I want to build something we will be
able to rely.

JM

2013/6/29 Varun Sharma <va...@pinterest.com>:
> Actually sending in a separate thread - since it does not really compare
> different versions of HBase but one version of Block Cache vs FS
> Cache(through hdfs).
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Varun Sharma <va...@pinterest.com> wrote:
>
>> I did some tests yesterday, on this. I will send them in a separate thread.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 5:10 AM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> In my measurements 0.94 has been getting faster with each release in both
>>> read and write performance.
>>> I wonder how representative PE is after all; it only tests via the local
>>> FS layer (not HDFS), among other issues.
>>>
>>> -- Lars
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jean-Marc Spaggiari <jean-m...@spaggiari.org>
>>> To: dev@hbase.apache.org; lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 30% random performance in 0.95+
>>>
>>> I think we should do that on 0.94 as well. I don't see any good reason
>>> to not do it.
>>>
>>> JM
>>>
>>> 2013/6/28 lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org>:
>>> > Yep.
>>> > Now the question is: Make these changes to 0.94 as well? Or just
>>> document these better.
>>> >
>>> > -- Lars
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
>>> > To: "dev@hbase.apache.org" <dev@hbase.apache.org>; lars hofhansl <
>>> la...@apache.org>
>>> > Cc:
>>> > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:08 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: 30% random performance in 0.95+
>>> >
>>> > I've been thinking about how to periodically search through some of our
>>> > parameter space to see what changes to defaults are better all the way
>>> > around. Probably will so something based on Bigtop.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, June 28, 2013, lars hofhansl wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> And indeed just this makes a tremendous difference. Unpatched 0.94 with
>>> >> 40% block cache configured is actually faster than 0.95 with the same
>>> block
>>> >> cache size.
>>> >>
>>> >> -- Lars
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org <javascript:;>>
>>> >> To: "dev@hbase.apache.org <javascript:;>" <dev@hbase.apache.org
>>> <javascript:;>
>>> >> >
>>> >> Cc:
>>> >> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:34 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: 30% random performance in 0.95+
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks JM,
>>> >>
>>> >> HBASE-8450 (r1485562) is interesting. It increases (among other things)
>>> >> the block cache percentage from 24 to 40%, which would lead to a higher
>>> >> probability of a future random read to hit an already cached block.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -- Lars
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: Jean-Marc Spaggiari <jean-m...@spaggiari.org <javascript:;>>
>>> >> To: dev@hbase.apache.org <javascript:;>; lars hofhansl <
>>> la...@apache.org<javascript:;>
>>> >> >
>>> >> Cc:
>>> >> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:18 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: 30% random performance in 0.95+
>>> >>
>>> >> I have the script done to run over a list of "svn releases", so if
>>> >> required, just give me a bunch of them or a range and I can restart.
>>> >> Just keep me posted.
>>> >>
>>> >> JM
>>> >>
>>> >> 2013/6/28 lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org <javascript:;>>:
>>> >> > I did a few more test (on my laptop, which is not quite
>>> representative),
>>> >> and found only a 2-3% improvement from HBASE-8001+HBASE-8012 in the
>>> end.
>>> >> > I'll look through the issues that you identified.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -- Lars
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: Jean-Marc Spaggiari <jean-m...@spaggiari.org <javascript:;>>
>>> >> > To: dev@hbase.apache.org <javascript:;>
>>> >> > Cc:
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:51 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: 30% random performance in 0.95+
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry folks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'm a bit late to run the tests... 0.94.8 and 0.94.9 are currently
>>> >> > running, but here is what I have been able to capture so far for 0.95
>>> >> > over the last year:
>>> >> > r1357480 1513196
>>> >> > r1367009 1440244.4
>>> >> > r1375812 1287143.5
>>> >> > r1381671 1287200.2
>>> >> > r1388620 1295262.6
>>> >> > r1394335 1022140.2
>>> >> > r1403898 884171.9
>>> >> > r1410631 804229.9
>>> >> > r1419787 846816.9
>>> >> > r1426557 853535.3
>>> >> > r1433514 873265.1
>>> >> > r1438972 840666.9
>>> >> > r1446106 877432.2
>>> >> > r1452661 883974.8
>>> >> > r1458421 882233.3
>>> >> > r1464267 847000.8
>>> >> > r1478964 877433.5
>>> >> > r1485868 744905.5
>>> >> > r1494869 765105.9
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So seems that there was some improvements between r1367009 and
>>> >> > r1403898 but they are old. Also another major improvement between
>>> >> > r1478964 and r1485868...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Let me know if you want me to dig further and I will be very happy
>>> to do
>>> >> so.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > JM
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2013/6/28 Stack <st...@duboce.net <javascript:;>>:
>>> >> >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:53 AM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org
>>> <javascript:;>>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> I partially tracked this down to HBASE-8001 and HBASE-8012 by
>>> looking
>>> >> at
>>> >> >>> the call stacks in a profiling session.
>>> >> >>> HBASE-8767 is a backport of both patched to 0.94.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Sounds like nice work by Raymond Liu...
>>> >> >> St.Ack
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
>>> >    - Andy
>>> >
>>> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
>>> > (via Tom White)
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>

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