I like the idea of a separate connectors repo/release vehicle, but I'm a
little concerned about the need to release all together to update just one
of the connectors. How would that work? What kind of compatibility
guarantees are we signing up for?

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 9:41 PM Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

> Grand. I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-20934. Let me
> have a go at making the easy one work first (the kafka proxy). Lets see how
> it goes. I'll report back here.
> S
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:43 PM Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Key functionality for the project's adoption should be in the project.
> > Please do not suggest we donate things to Bahir.
> >
> > I apologize if this is brisk. I have had previous negative experiences
> > with folks that span our communities trying to move work I spent a lot
> > of time contributing to within HBase over to Bahir in an attempt to
> > bypass an agreed upon standard of quality.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Artem Ervits <artemerv...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Why not just donating the connector to http://bahir.apache.org/ ?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 12:51 PM Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd love to have the Kafka Connector included.
> > >>
> > >> @Mike thanks so much for the contribution (and your planned ones)
> > >>
> > >> I'm +1 on adding it to the core but I'm also +1 on having a separate
> > >> repository under Apache governance
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > +1 to the great point by Duo about use of non-IA.Public classes
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 for Apache for the governance (although, I wouldn't care if we
> use
> > >> > Github PRs to try to encourage more folks to contribute), a repo
> with
> > the
> > >> > theme of "connectors" (to include Thrift, REST, and the like). Spark
> > too
> > >> --
> > >> > I think we had suggested that prior, but it could be a mental
> > invention
> > >> of
> > >> > mine..
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 7/24/18 10:16 AM, Hbase Janitor wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi everyone,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm the author of the patch.  A separate repo for all the
> connectors
> > is
> > >> a
> > >> >> great idea! I can make whatever changes necessary to the patch to
> > help.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have several other integration type projects like this planned.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 00:03 Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I would be ok with all of the connectors in a single repo. Doing a
> > repo
> > >> >>> per
> > >> >>> connector seems like a large amount of overhead work.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 9:12 PM Clay B. <c...@clayb.net> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> [Non-binding]
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I am all for the Kafka Connect(er) as indeed it makes HBase "more
> > >> >>>> relevant" and generates buzz to help me sell HBase adoption in my
> > >> >>>> endeavors.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Also, I would like to see a connectors repo a lot as I would
> > expect it
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>> can
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> make the HBase source and releases more obvious in what is
> > changing.
> > >> Not
> > >> >>>> to distract from Kafka, but Spark has in the past been a hang-up
> > and
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>> seems
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> a good fit in such a repo too; as such, I would prefer Apache
> over
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>> GitHub.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> -Clay
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Would we make a new repo called hbase-connectors and move REST,
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>> thrift,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> and this new patch there?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I like this idea. We are already releasing hbase-thirdparty like
> > >> this.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:47 PM Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> (Thanks for the good discussion)
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Where we think  'outside of HBase' would be?
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Github seems too 'remote' from project and from Apache? Would
> we
> > >> make
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>> a
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> new
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> repo called hbase-connectors and move REST, thrift, and this new
> > >> patch
> > >> >>>>>> there?
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >> >>>>>> S
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:50 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> I'm -0 for including this into the main hbase tree. I feel like
> > >> we've
> > >> >>>>>>> made a bit of progress in cleaning up our core, and this
> > strikes me
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> as
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> a
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> step in the wrong direction.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> At the same time, the integration seems nice enough (for the
> > same
> > >> >>>>>>> reasons Andrew points out). Is there a reason this couldn't
> > exist
> > >> >>>>>>> outside of HBase (at the ASF or otherwise)? Given a quick
> > glance at
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> the
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> patch, it would be quite trivial to keep separate (just requires
> > some
> > >> >>>>>>> heavier scripting to get it off the ground that the HBase
> > scripts
> > >> do
> > >> >>>>>>> setup for). I feel like that will decrease our debt while we
> > see if
> > >> >>>>>>> people start using it. Our API should be more than stable
> > enough to
> > >> >>>>>>> prevent any worry about drift happening from core to this
> > project.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On 7/23/18 6:35 PM, Stack wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> We have a very nice contrib sitting up in HBASE-15320 which
> > via a
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> proxy
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> --
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> so minimal dependencies -- adds source and sink for Kafka
> > Connect.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> It
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> is
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> nicely contained inside two new hbase-kafka-* modules.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> We good w/ taking on this new feature?
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> It looks good to me. Check it out up on HBASE-15320. I was
> > going
> > >> to
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> commit
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> to tip of branch-2 so it'd show up in hbase-2.2.x unless you
> > all
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> want
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> some
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> backporting action going on.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> S
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> --
> > >> >>>>> Best regards,
> > >> >>>>> Andrew
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> > >> truth's
> > >> >>>>> decrepit hands
> > >> >>>>>    - A23, Crosstalk
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>

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