Quarterly seems fine.

Still too many branches though.

Any chance of your going to 1.4 Francis so we can let Andrew's effort at
unhitching 1.3 complete?

Thanks,
S

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:32 AM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote:

> I have been releasing 1.4 semi-monthly (usually, monthly) and Sean has been
> releasing 1.2 every quarter. So maybe quarterly releases would be good?
> What do others think? What is the minimum release schedule to make it worth
> your while for commits/backports to a branch? At least once every half
> year? More often?
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:23 AM Francis Christopher Liu <
> toffer....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Given there was no release activity on 1.3 all year may I ask how you
> are
> > using 1.3? Are you consuming upstream changes by cherry pick into an
> > internal branch?
> > It depends on the urgency of an internal release we either pull in all
> > changes up to a release, tip or cherry-pick. For the more recent releases
> > we've been cherry picking. Tho we intend to pull in all changes again.
> BTW
> > I did release 1.3.2 in March.
> >
> > >It’s great that you’ve stepped forward to offer ongoing RM activity. We
> > will need this commitment and a new pattern of more frequent releasing to
> > justify keeping the code line alive, I think.
> > Let me know what would be an acceptable release cadence and I'll carve
> out
> > time.
> >
> > >Did you see that I stepped forward to make a release? There is a VOTE
> > thread now for 1.3.3RC0.  Perhaps we can start there? Would you use it?
> > Would you +1? Or are there changes in there that are of concern? Please
> > consider commenting on the VOTE.
> > Yes we will use it, my intention is to be as current to branch-1.3 as
> > possible. Yes, I intend to vote on the release. I am currently running
> the
> > unit test and going through the release. Apologies for you having to cut
> > the release.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Francis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:48 AM Andrew Purtell <andrew.purt...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It’s been a year since the last release. For what it’s worth I see no
> > harm
> > > in continuing to release 1.3, but you have to consider how burdensome
> it
> > is
> > > to have an open code line that bug fixes need to be committed into.
> Given
> > > there was no release activity on 1.3 all year may I ask how you are
> using
> > > 1.3? Are you consuming upstream changes by cherry pick into an internal
> > > branch? Or are you not consuming any upstream changes at all? If the
> > > latter, then what’s the point? If the former, it still isn’t great,
> > because
> > > while changes may be getting out into production somewhere it’s only
> you
> > > who is benefitting. We need releases from branch-1.3 a lot more
> > frequently
> > > or it’s a bad deal for the community. Committers have to deal with
> > > effectively a dead branch. Users get no releases. Given the consensus
> > > expressed on this thread we don’t want this deal. It’s great that
> you’ve
> > > stepped forward to offer ongoing RM activity. We will need this
> > commitment
> > > and a new pattern of more frequent releasing to justify keeping the
> code
> > > line alive, I think.
> > >
> > > Did you see that I stepped forward to make a release? There is a VOTE
> > > thread now for 1.3.3RC0.  Perhaps we can start there? Would you use it?
> > > Would you +1? Or are there changes in there that are of concern? Please
> > > consider commenting on the VOTE.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:31 AM, Francis Christopher Liu <
> > > toffer....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Apologies a bit late to this discussion. I would still like to
> continue
> > > > making 1.3 releases. If the concern is having a better cadence of
> > > releases
> > > > let me know how often the community would like (quarterly, every
> other
> > > > month, etc) and I'll make sure to carve out time with my employer. We
> > > will
> > > > be on 1.3 for a while. I believe it would be beneficial for the
> > community
> > > > and my employer for us to be on an active release line, hence my
> > > interest.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you guys think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Francis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:04 PM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you all for your comments. It looks like we have consensus to
> > EOL
> > > 1.3
> > > >> and RM one final release. I will start working on that release,
> 1.3.3,
> > > now.
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:50 AM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 12/7/18 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> > > >>>> We haven't had a release from branch-1.3 for a long time and do
> not
> > > >>> appear
> > > >>>> to have an active RM for it. Unless a RM for 1.3 steps forward and
> > > >>> promises
> > > >>>> to make a release in the very near future, I propose we make one
> > more
> > > >>>> release of 1.3, from the head of branch-1.3, and then retire the
> > > >> branch.
> > > >>> If
> > > >>>> this is acceptable I can RM the final 1.3 release.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >>
> > > >> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from
> truth's
> > > >> decrepit hands
> > > >>   - A23, Crosstalk
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
>    - A23, Crosstalk
>

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