On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:22 AM Sean Busbey <[email protected]> wrote:

> ..
>
> What if we kept the release management / dev-support stuff in a
> dedicated repo? presumably we'd never actually release anything out of
> this repo, but if we used a branch in the main repo we wouldn't
> release out of it either?
>
>

hbase-operator-tools/create-release or a new repo altogether?
S



> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:56 AM Peter Somogyi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It is great that you brought up this topic Nick! I agree that the optimal
> > solution would be to host all the release related scripts (RC build,
> > verifier) in a common place.
> >
> > The RC making scrip in hbase-operator-tools that Stack finetuned is meant
> > to work with different artifacts. The current version there gives the RM
> a
> > smooth experience. It emerged from HBase's create-release script and
> > hopefully it can be used on other releases as well. There are some
> > constraints of the tool like Jira versions should use
> > `hbase-operator-tools` prefix.
> >
> > > This is a good point. I wonder if `dev-support` should be pruned or
> purged
> > from all branches other than master
> >
> > When we create branch-3 out of master then this becomes a problem again.
> > Would it work if we use a specific branch for such tooling (e.g.
> > dev-tools)? In this case RMs can just clone that branch and don't need
> the
> > whole HBase repository on their local machine.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:40 PM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Sean Busbey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If the tooling is in one place where will it live?
> > > >
> > > > As an RM I like not needing to checkout more then the repo I'm
> trying to
> > > > get a release out on.
> > > >
> > >
> > > My initial thinking was all would be in the main repo, but this is
> contrary
> > > to your above statement. As I see it, everyone working on HBase has a
> > > checkout of the main repo handy, so for releases spun on developer
> machines
> > > it's "no big deal." If we can ever get to releases spun through
> automated
> > > environments, it's all scripted anyway and thus "no big deal."
> > >
> > > In particular my release machine is slow on disk and so updates to the
> main
> > > > git repo when trying to release something not in the main repo will
> be
> > > > painful.
> > >
> > >
> > > "slow on disk" as in iops rate or "low on disk" as in capacity? Either
> way,
> > > I'm surprised to hear about this as a barrier. Is there a
> side-conversation
> > > we can have about trimming the fat out of our repo(s)? Some git
> maintenance
> > > that can/needs to be done? I was recently shocked by the girth of our
> repos
> > > -- nearly 0.5g on the main repo and a whopping 4g on the site!
> > >
> > > For the most part this is also why I usually manually build RCs
> > > > that I run for the main repo, because I can do a shallow clone of the
> > > > release branch instead of needing to get updates to all the active
> > > > branches.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This makes me sad. Automate more, not less! Altering the automation to
> make
> > > shallow clones of targeted branches should be simple enough, no?
> > >
> > > For testing RCs I guess it's currently all some combination of the
> > > > foundation policies that should be the same and maybe maven profiles?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I agree that codification of foundation policy is the baseline. That
> would
> > > be enough for me as a first pass. After that, perhaps layers of
> increasing
> > > sophistication, perhaps repo-dependent. I don't follow your meaning re:
> > > maven profiles.
> > >
> > > Iirc there was already some confusion about using the testing script
> that
> > > > came in the main repo source bundle vs the one on master.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is a good point. I wonder if `dev-support` should be pruned or
> purged
> > > from all branches other than master. Maybe the CI related stuff
> branches
> > > into it's own directory or directories, and we keep everything else
> limited
> > > to a single canonical copy on master. This strategy would eliminate
> > > confusion re: what is authority in any given situation but perhaps is
> too
> > > constraining, given the number of active release branches we maintain.
> > >
> > > What issue are we trying to solve?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Minimize contributor friction. Make it easy for every subscriber to
> dev@
> > > to
> > > say "There's a new RC posted and I have an idle machine for an hour /
> for
> > > the evening / for the weekend, let's just kick the tires." Make it
> easy for
> > > everyone who's learned the RC tooling on one branch to pinch-hit in on
> > > another branch or another repo. I hear a constant complaint of
> "scarcity of
> > > volunteer hours" and "I wish we had more people voting in RCs" and "I
> wish
> > > we could keep a monthly release cadence on every branch we're
> maintaining".
> > > So I'd like to see a focused effort on maximizing the volunteer human
> and
> > > machine time that's thrown our way.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 11:50 Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Heya,
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like we have quite a few repos now, each of which must
> produce
> > > > > artifacts that follow the Apache protocols. I also see we have some
> > > nice
> > > > > tools built up in dev-support in the main repo for RM's who build
> > > release
> > > > > candidates and community members to vote on them. I tried to use
> our
> > > > > hbase-vote.sh on this operator-tools RC and found it mostly works.
> I
> > > > think
> > > > > a few adjustments on each end would allow these tools to work
> across
> > > > repos,
> > > > > so I filed HBASE-23048. However, I now see that operator-tools has
> its
> > > > own
> > > > > dev-support/create-release, so I wonder what direction we want to
> take
> > > > with
> > > > > this automation, so here I come to the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do we want to have independent tooling for each repo? Are the
> processes
> > > > of
> > > > > building RC's different enough to warrant separate tools? Is a
> single
> > > > tool
> > > > > that can build an RC for all of them not worth the trouble? At the
> very
> > > > > least, I think the hbase-vote.sh can be made to work with releases
> > > > > generated from each of the repos, as it's not doing all that much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:42 AM Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  - Verified signatures.
> > > > > >  - Verified checksums.
> > > > > >  - Built from source tarball successfully.
> > > > > >  - Ran unit tests from source tarball, pass.
> > > > > >  - Ran rat check from source tarball, pass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:31 AM Peter Somogyi <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Please vote on this Apache HBase Operator Tools Release
> Candidate
> > > > (RC),
> > > > > >> 1.0.0.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The VOTE will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache HBase Operator Tools 1.0.0
> > > > > >> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because ...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The tag to be voted on is 1.0.0RC0:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  https://github.com/apache/hbase-operator-tools/tree/1.0.0RC0
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The release files, including signatures, digests, as well as
> > > > CHANGES.md
> > > > > >> and RELEASENOTES.md included in this RC can be found at:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/hbase/1.0.0RC0/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Maven artifacts are available in a staging repository at:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehbase-1348/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Artifacts were signed with the [email protected] key which
> can be
> > > > > found
> > > > > >> in:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/hbase/KEYS
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> To learn more about Apache HBase Operator Tools, please see
> > > > > >> http://hbase.apache.org/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> Your HBase Release Manager
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>

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