Hi,

Sadly, I can't claim I have personal knowledge of this being true. I have an application where I can get a reactor thread to hang like that and this description seemed to fit. I have been unable to make a unit test that reproduces this behavior however.

I am using:

java version "1.5.0_06"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-113)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_06-68, mixed mode)

Here is another reference:

        http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=459338&start=120

"register and interestOps will block if they are done from another thread while the select is active. That's why I use a list of things that must be done in the select loop."

And I read this:

        
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/nio/channels/SelectionKey.html

Selection keys are safe for use by multiple concurrent threads. **The operations of reading and writing the interest set will, in general, be synchronized with certain operations of the selector. Exactly how this synchronization is performed is implementation-dependent: In a naive implementation, reading or writing the interest set may block indefinitely if a selection operation is already in progress**; in a high-performance implementation, reading or writing the interest set may block briefly, if at all. In any case, a selection operation will always use the interest-set value that was current at the moment that the operation began.

To me, that suggests that select + modify of the interest ops == bad, which agrees with what the various posts say. Again, I have no nio expertise, so my idea may be bunk.

David Koski


On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:


On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 16:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,

Your suggestion worked well, but I think I ran into a problem with it (using A6, if it matters). I ended up with a hung IOReactor thread:

Thread [I/O dispatcher 2] (Suspended)   
KQueueArrayWrapper.register0(int, int, int, int) line: not available [native method]
        KQueueArrayWrapper.setInterest(int, int) line: 99       
        KQueueSelectorImpl.putEventOps(SelectionKeyImpl, int) line: 179 
SocketChannelImpl.translateAndSetInterestOps(int, SelectionKeyImpl) line: 733
        SelectionKeyImpl.nioInterestOps(int) line: 87   
        SelectionKeyImpl.interestOps(int) line: 65      
        IOSessionImpl.clearEvent(int) line: 125 
AsyncHTTPClient $ AsyncConnection (DefaultNHttpClientConnection).produceOutput(NHttpClientHandler) line: 183 AsyncHTTPClient $EventDispatch(DefaultClientIOEventDispatch).outputReady(IOSession) line: 102
        AsyncHTTPClient$EventDispatch.outputReady(IOSession) line: 353  
        BaseIOReactor.writable(SelectionKey) line: 109  
BaseIOReactor(AbstractIOReactor).processEvent(SelectionKey) line: 192
        BaseIOReactor(AbstractIOReactor).processEvents(Set) line: 174   
        BaseIOReactor(AbstractIOReactor).execute() line: 137    
        BaseIOReactor.execute(IOEventDispatch) line: 69 
        AbstractMultiworkerIOReactor$Worker.run() line: 281     
        Thread.run() line: 613  

The AsyncHTTPClient class is mine, but it is just very thin wrappers on the default implementations. Anyway, the thread hangs like this while trying to clear the write interest on the SelectionKey. I only seem to run into this at high (> 1000 per second) request rates.

I think this may actually be related to waking up the the IOControl:

               conn.requestOutput();

this ends up here:


   public void setEvent(int op) {
       if (this.status == CLOSED) {
           return;
       }
       synchronized (this.key) {
           int ops = this.key.interestOps();
           this.key.interestOps(ops | op);
           this.key.selector().wakeup();
       }
   }

However, several sites suggest that concurrent modification of SelectionKeys is a recipe for disaster:

http://rox-xmlrpc.sourceforge.net/niotut/index.html

As a result, if you plan to hang onto your sanity don't modify the selector from any thread other than the selecting thread. This includes modifying the interest ops set for a selection key, registering new channels with the selector, and cancelling existing channels.



But that is _exactly_ what I am doing here. The thread that wants the connection is touching the SelectionKey and the IOReactor (I/O dispatcher) thread is also touching it.

Am I understanding this correctly?


David,

The javadocs of the SelectonKey clearly states the class is threading
safe [1]:

"... Selection keys are safe for use by multiple concurrent threads..."

One certainly should not attempt to access the selector from multiple
threads but it is completely new to me some people think this also
applies to the selection keys. Selection keys would be completely
pointless if they were not threading safe

Can this be a JRE issue? What is the JRE you are using?

Oleg

[1]
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/nio/channels/SelectionKey.html


Thanks,
David Koski


-- Oleg Kalnichevski wrote : On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 14:10 -0700, David Koski wrote:
Hi,

I have been reading NHttpClient and I think I finally understand how
it all works, but I am a bit stuck with how to use it.  Let's say I
wanted to build something along the lines of a load balancer:  many
incoming connections, many outgoing connections, most are idle or
waiting for a response.

Focusing on the outgoing connections part, I want to have keep-alive
connections to a set of hosts, multiple connections per port.  For
example:

        LB -> host1:80
        LB -> host1:80
        LB -> host1:80

        LB -> host2:80
        LB -> host2:80

If I have a queue of operations I want to do, I can see how I might
use a series of ioReactor.connect() calls to create the connections
and have submitRequest() methods in my HttpRequestExecutionHandler
pull them off the queue and service them.

The problem I am having is dealing with the steady state.  I would
like to keep these connections around for a while (and indeed using
the DefaultConnectionReuseStrategy they are kept alive. However, once
my queue drains and my submitRequest() method returns null, how do I
wake the handlers back up?  I can see any way to get the reactor to
call back into my handler without opening a new connection.

Am I missing something?  Or going about this the wrong way?


Hi David

Just invoke IOControl#requestOutput() (implemented by all NHttp
connections) and it will cause the I/O reactor to fire up the
NHttpClientHandler#requestReady() event, which you can use to submit a
new request on that connection

Hope this helps

Oleg

Thanks,
David Koski

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