Hi All! A purely technical question: what will the SNAPSHOT version become after releasing Hive 4.0.0? I think this is important, as it defines and reflects the future release plans.
Currently, it's 4.0.0-SNAPSHOT, I guess it's since Hive 3.0 + branch-3. Hive is an evolving and super-active project: if we want to make regular releases, we should simply release Hive 4.0 and bump pom to 4.1.0-SNAPSHOT, which clearly says that we can release Hive 4.1 anytime we want, without being frustrated about "whether we included enough cool stuff to release 5.0". This also means there should *not* be a branch-4 after releasing Hive 4.0 and let that diverge (and becomes the next, super-ignored branch-3), only when we end up bringing a minor backward-incompatible thing that needs a 4.0.x, and when it happens, we'll create *branch-4.0 *on demand. For me, a branch called *branch-4.0* doesn't imply either I can expect cool releases in the future from there or the branch is maintained and tries to be in sync with the *master*. Regards, Laszlo Bodor Alessandro Solimando <alessandro.solima...@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. febr. 8., K, 16:42): > Hello everyone, > thank you for starting this discussion. > > I agree that releasing the master branch regularly and sufficiently often > is welcome and vital for the health of the community. > > It would be great to hear from others too, especially PMC members and > committers, but even simple contributors/followers as myself. > > Best regards, > Alessandro > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 12:22, Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for starting the discussion Zoltan. > > > > I strongly believe that it is important to have regular and often > releases > > otherwise people will create and maintain separate Hive forks. > > The latter is not good for the project and the community may lose > valuable > > members because of it. > > > > Going forward I fully agree that there is no point bringing up strong > > blockers for the next release. For sure there are many backward > > incompatible changes and possibly unstable features but unless we get a > > release out it will be difficult to determine what is broken and what > needs > > to be fixed. > > > > Due to the big number of changes that are going to appear in the next > > version I would suggest using the terms Hive X-alpha, Hive X-beta for the > > first few releases. This will make it clear to the end users that they > need > > to be careful when upgrading from an older version and it will give us a > > bit more time and freedom to treat issues that the users will likely > > discover. > > > > The only real blocker that we may want to treat is HIVE-25665 [1] but we > > can continue the discussion under that ticket and re-evaluate if > necessary, > > > > Best, > > Stamatis > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-25665 > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 5:03 PM Zoltan Haindrich <k...@rxd.hu> wrote: > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > We didn't made a release for a long time now; (3.1.2 was released on 26 > > > August 2019) - and I think because we didn't made that many branch-3 > > > releases; not too many fixes > > > were ported there - which made that release branch kinda erode away. > > > > > > We have a lot of new features/changes in the current master. > > > I think instead of aiming for big feature-packed releases we should aim > > > for making a regular release every few months - we should make regular > > > releases which people could > > > install and use. > > > After all releasing Hive after more than 2 years would be big step > > forward > > > in itself alone - we have so many improvements that I can't even > count... > > > > > > But I may know not every aspects of the project / states of some > internal > > > features - so I would like to ask you: > > > What would be the bare minimum requirements before we could release the > > > current master as Hive X? > > > > > > There are many nice-to-have-s like: > > > * hadoop upgrade > > > * jdk11 > > > * remove HoS or MR > > > * ? > > > but I don't think these are blockers...we can make any of these in the > > > next release if we start making them... > > > > > > cheers, > > > Zoltan > > > > > >
