The idea is to cherry-pick individual bug fixes/improvements that could be easily tested to avoid a complete release test cycle (TPC-DS performance suite, multi-db tests, etc)
On 2024/04/18 11:22:09 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote: > There are also many projects that never create minor version releases; > it's up to each project to decide what fits best on each occasion. > > I am not against minor releases nor suggest that this should be the > way to go for every release from now onwards. I am just saying that at > this point in time I don't see a big benefit to release from side > branches. > > Again the motivation for releasing early and often from master is that > it has less maintenance overhead for the community and the end-users > can benefit from all improvements as soon as possible. Certainly if we > introduce breaking changes and big risky features this approach cannot > work. > > Anyways, I am glad that we are having this discussion and it's also > very positive that we are talking about a new release in less than a > month since 4.0.0 came out. No matter if it is 4.0.1 or 4.1.0 I am > fully onboard and happy to help as much as I can :) > > Best, > Stamatis > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:53 AM Denys Kuzmenko <dkuzme...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Stamatis, > > > > That is the standard practice to create minor version release for bugfixes. > > Many upstream projects follow that same strategy, check Iceberg for example. > > > > Regards, > > Denys > > > > On 2024/04/18 07:49:59 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote: > > > The 4.0.0 release was quite recent so I assume we don't have major > > > breaking changes in there at the moment so we could cut the release > > > directly from master as soon as we want. HIVE-28166 is already merged > > > so we could aim to cut 4.1.0 as soon as HIVE-28190 goes in. > > > > > > The experience shows that we are not very good at maintaining multiple > > > release branches so in general I would prefer to focus on releasing > > > only from master for the time being. Hive is a quite mature project so > > > in principle breaking changes should be rather rare which gives us a > > > bit of margin. I think a scheme where we backport less and release > > > more is preferable. > > > > > > Best, > > > Stamatis > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:56 AM Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Stamatis, > > > > The plan is to have a release line cut from the branch-4.0, So, we plan > > > > to pull in some critical bug fixes & improvements into the 4.0.1 > > > > release and have a quicker release. > > > > As of now we are just putting the label "hive-4.0.1-must" on the > > > > tickets and we plan to make sure those get c-picked to the release > > > > line. AFAIK we haven't started committing to any branch yet, was > > > > waiting if anyone feels differently, so we can hold back if you have > > > > concerns or take a different approach as well. > > > > > > > > From CI you mean to say the daily builds? else if you create a PR > > > > targeting to branch-4.0, it will run the entire test suite I believe? > > > > In the meantime I will update the instructions regarding the target > > > > branch & the label if anyone wants that a particular ticket to be part > > > > of the 4.0.1 release. > > > > > > > > -Ayush > > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 at 12:42, Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for starting the discussion Ayush. > > > >> > > > >> Having frequent releases is definitely needed so we should keep the > > > >> momentum going. > > > >> > > > >> I had the impression from other threads that the next Hive release > > > >> would be 4.1.0 and that it would be cut from master. I would like to > > > >> understand how 4.0.1 is different and if it is, what is the > > > >> contribution pattern that contributors and committers should follow? > > > >> If the idea is to maintain and commit in two (or more) branches the > > > >> steps should be documented and CI should be running on those branches. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Stamatis > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 1:18 PM Denys Kuzmenko <dkuzme...@apache.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > We might need it sooner as identified some critical issues in the > > > >> > recent code: > > > >> > 1. HIVE-28166: Truncate on Iceberg table disregards the branch name > > > >> > and operates on a main; > > > >> > 2. HIVE-28190: Materialized view rebuild lock heart-beating is > > > >> > broken; > > > >
