Hi,

I also would like to stay as a PMC member on the project.

I'm joining Julian and I think it's good to have a rotation of the PMC chair in a project because it can help to have more traction on the Apache community.

regards,

François

On 05/11/2021 17:04, Julian Hyde wrote:
Mentors quite frequently drop out after graduation but I would like to stay on 
as a PMC member.

As others have said in this thread, being a PMC member is about governance 
(with a particular duty to vote on releases) and a broad PMC benefits the 
project, because all perspectives get heard and wisdom prevails.

I think Hans is an excellent choice as initial PMC chair.

A few Apache projects rotate PMC chairs - e.g. Calcite elects a new chair each 
anniversary of graduation, and to date no one has served more than one term - 
and after graduation that’s an idea I would like Hop to consider.

Julian

On Nov 5, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Ricardo Gouvea <[email protected]> wrote:

OK Hans, thank you for explanation and this way, I agree to join the Hop
PMC.

Best regards,

Em sex., 5 de nov. de 2021 às 10:29, Hans Van Akelyen <
[email protected]> escreveu:

Hi Ricardo,

PMC members and even Committers do not have to be developers, The
foundation hammers on this but the name Committer might not be the best
name to cover the whole picture.

The PMC is responsible for the management of the project, reporting to the
ASF Board, voting on releases, adding new committers and PMC members and
solving conflicts (let's hope this isn't needed that often).

Committers are active contributors to the project. This CAN be code, but
also docs, helping users, promoting the project, it can be anything where
you gain a bit of merit.

As a project we value everyone's input being promoted to the committer or
PMC role is an acknowledgement of the time and effort you put into the
project.

More information on what the PMC is and what it's responsibilities are can
be found on the apache website [1]

Cheers,
Hans

[1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 14:14, Ricardo Gouvea <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bart,

I'm interested in participating, but I don't know how this participation
would happen, since I'm not a developer.

Best regards,

Em sex., 5 de nov. de 2021 às 09:58, Bart Maertens <
[email protected]>
escreveu:

Hi Everyone,

As one of the steps to graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a Top Level
Project, we need to build a project team.

The standard approach when projects graduate is that all committers who
want to do so can join the project's PMC[1].
Hans Van Akelyen will be suggested as Hop's PMC Chair after graduation.

Our current project structure (listed below) will cease to exist and
will
be replaced by the new PMC.
Can you please reply to this mail to let us know if you'd like to join
the
Hop PMC?
We'll leave this thread open for (at least) 72 hours.

Mentors:
- Francois Papon
- Julian Hyde
- Kevin Ratnasekera
- Maximilian Michels
- Tom Barber

PPMC members:
- Bart Maertens
- Brandon Jackson
- Hans Van Akelyen
- Matt Casters
- Nicolas Adment

Committers:
- Bruno Silva
- Dave Campen
- Hiromu Hota
- Jason Chu
- Mahendran Mookkiah
- Peter Fabricius
- Rodrigo Haces
- Sergio Ramazzina
- Yannick Mols


[1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

Regards,
Bart


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