"Rasmus Lerdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I've more or less accepted that perchild on FreeBSD 4.X isn't going to
>> happen (as sad as it is, I always considered it to be THE feature [1] in
>> 2.0 that would warrant an upgrade for us) but what I'd like to know is
>> if there is any chance to see perchild on FreeBSD 5 which gets wholly
>> new threading and SMP libs?
>
> I agree, and I have been preaching the same thing for a while. Almost no
> point in releasing Apache2 without a working perchild. Unfortunately
> there are other issues as well. A lot of the 3rd party libs that
> something like PHP or mod_perl depends on are not necessarily threadsafe.
> As witnessed by FreeBSD's incredibly buggy threading code there aren't a
> lot of things using threads heavily on UNIX. With some notable
> exceptions, of course, but very few try to pull in 30 or 40 3rd-party
> libraries as well. We are going to have to fix a bunch of them and mutex
> some others before Apache2 with a threaded MPM will be of any use with PHP
> or mod_perl. And I am not sure how to go about identifying the libraries
> that aren't qiute threadsafe. Problems generally only show up under load
> and only in certain circumstances. Especially for the libraries that
> claim to be threadsafe but aren't quite for whatever reason.
Luckily, in Java land things are more or less brighter, and I can say that
for what matters to me (I don't use PHP on big production servers, apart
from a couple of things which are thread safe - IMP and related), the
threaded MPM is giving me nothing but joy every single friggin' day! :)
Keep up the "gud staf" guys! :)
Pier (working his ass off on a deadline!)
