On 28.09.2007, at 01:28, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Erik Abele wrote:
Sure, we all have to pay our bills but you're overlooking a
difference:
Nick just replied to an inquiry offering his (and others
services); he
doesn't advertise any revenue-generating site after every release
etc.
etc... ;-0
Nick's comment didn't even mention he does this exclusively, he
pointed
out that there are a number of devs or organizations who can
provide such
services, and was *probably* letting the user know that the scope
of their
troubles was not going to elicit them enough purely voulenteer help.
Exactly!
Again, Steffens contributions would be very welcomed *here* if this
whole AL thing were just not that misleading - hey, with some
effort he
could e.g. help out constructively by building these binaries in a
transparent and documented way *here* and we could even distribute
them
from apache.org/dist (plus mirrors) to help the win community even
more!
I want to be sure folks understand that the relabeling that Steffan
and
the AL team have already done went a long way to satisfying almost any
of the project's possible concerns; the Feather is gone,
disclaimers are
posted. W.r.t. actually creating or distributing RC's, Colm's points
went a long way to convince me they can be helpful --- that is if
and only
if the feedback gets back to where it might be useful to improving
the s/w.
Absolutely.
Also note we only post binaries from committers; we can't/won't elicit
or host them for add'l third parties. So for example, any committer
is welcome to post updated sun .pkg's. But we wouldn't accept those
from Sun. The origin of all of the files under
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/
is from an Apache httpd project committer, each of whom is bound to
a CLA
(to resolve any possible IP/trust issues.)
Yep, maybe my post was misleading; with "some effort" I actually
meant "becoming a committer"... :)
Cheers,
Erik