Very well put Rich. Ed Herring AMR2 BaR Administrator 512-314-1133 Cell Phone 512-917-8480
________________________________ From: Rich Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:39 AM To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: 2.2.7 Regarding the threatening mail from Roy T. Fielding, : "There would not be a windows version of Apache without Bill's efforts to keep it alive, and there won't be one in the future if windows developers refuse to participate in the development mailing lists HERE." Really ? Do you mean that without William Rowe, Covalent ( http://www.covalent.net/about/management.html ) would have chosen an other opensource product. Are you sure that no other company at all would have found a way (or a brilliant developer) to make money from "apache certified builds" ? Um ... No, that's not at all what's being said. Quite apart from the history of the founding of that company ... but that's utterly irrelevant here. Companies aren't participants in Apache projects. Individuals are. What's being said is that Apache for Windows is a volunteer effort, and that William Rowe is, at this moment, the most active of those volunteers. It's not a threat at all. It's a reality. Furthermore, Apache for Windows will only continue to exist if there is a steady flow of these volunteers. This (dev@) is the forum in which they operate. This, also, is not a threat, but a plain statement of the reality of how this operates. Likewise, Apache for BeOs existed due to the efforts of volunteers. It no longer exists, because there are no longer volunteers to make it exist. Again, reality, not threat. I'm getting rather weary of the tone of this conversation. I'm still naive enough to believe that most of us here truly believe in the notion of Open Source. I'm also grown up enough to understand that most of us here have a monthly water bill that we have to pay, and that making money is actually a very handy thing, and not something to treat as dirty to talk about. Steffen, we welcome your participation. You have fixes that make 2.2.6 more usable on Windows. Great. Submit patches so that 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 contain those fixes. Help us make the world better. -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Ghandi
