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        From: Greg SteinSent: Dienstag, 1. Juni 2010 14:40
        To: dev@httpd.apache.org
        Subject: Re: Fast by default
        
        

        Geez, Eric. No wonder people don't want to contribute to httpd, when 
they run into an attitude like yours. That dismissiveness makes me embarressed 
for our community.

        There is zero reason for us to avoid putting deflate into the default 
configuration.

        It is also very arguable that we should leave it off. I think others 
have argued well to enable it by default, while you've simply dismissed them 
with your holier-than-thou attitude and lack of any solid rationale. 

        And others have argued well to leave it off by default. My personal 
opinion is that we should leave it disabled by default for the reasons (CPU, 
Proxies, Browser behaviour, ETAG problem) mentioned by others.

        Regards

        Rüdiger

        -g

        

                On May 31, 2010 8:06 PM, "Eric Covener" <cove...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
                
                

                On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Bryan McQuade 
<bmcqu...@google.com> wrote:
                > I propose providing an...

                An additional httpd.conf doesn't sound valuable to me.  What 
slice of
                non-savvy users would scrutinize an alternate config file, can 
replace
                the config file of their webserver, isn't using a webserver 
packaged
                by their OS, and wouldn't have just gotten the same information 
today
                from the manual and 400,000 other websites?
                
                There's currently no <ifModule> bloat in the default conf, but 
you're
                welcome to submit a patch that adds one for deflate or expires 
(latter
                seems more unwise to me). See the "supplemental configuration" 
section
                of the generated config.
                
                This doesn't address mass-vhost companies failing to allow 
deflate
                because it's not in the no-args HTTPD ./configure , which sounds
                far-fetched to me.  I can't recall a users@ or #httpd user 
implying
                being subjected to such a thing with their own build or with 
cheap
                hosting.
                
                --
                

                Eric Covener
                cove...@gmail.com

        

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