On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:19 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> So my proposal to be presented shortly as a vote would be to abandon the
> trunk into a sandbox to be mined for good changes, once 30 days after a
> vote is concluded without a release, and to revert the 2.4.x trunk to
> CTR.  Comments and suggestions are welcome before I frame this as an
> actual policy vote...
> 

From what I can see, the above was sent at

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and the [VOTE] The 'RM' Baton was sent at:

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My math may be off, but that seems like a "wait" of ~22 minutes for
the "welcome" comments and suggestions. :)

How about instead of us wasting time with these sort of
naval gazing exercises, we test and vote? Isn't that the
real problem?

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