On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net> wrote:
> > > On 11/21/2014 4:21 PM, Victor J. Orlikowski wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Jeff Trawick <traw...@gmail.com > > <mailto:traw...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> * oh, and make it possible for 90% of the potential user base to be > >> running 2.4.latest in several minutes without possibly interfering > >> with existing software; user guide material (above) must support > >> having the user's own application deployed behind httpd a few minutes > >> later > >> > > > > The “new hotness” making something like this possible, on Linux and OS X > > at least, is Docker. > > Here’s the Dockerfile in github: > > https://github.com/docker-library/docs/tree/master/httpd > > > > The “deploy X application, according to how the developers spelled it > > out, isolated from host OS environment” scenario has been pretty much > > captured and owned by the Docker folks; they’ve done a masterful job of > it. > > Docker is awesome for "get started fast" (as are Chef & Puppet) with > best-practices, but none of those 3 solutions really deal with how to > migrate an existing pre-2.4 config to 2.4, which I think was the point > Jeff was trying to make. > > I have to admit, even given my involvement in the project, I personally > still cringe a bit every time I need to do that upgrade. > I wasn't referring to an upgrade to 2.4. Here's a little more of what I was thinking about potential users that aren't prepared to manage Docker images themselves: * Docker could be a good way to give somebody a way to kick the tires with 2.4, hopefully with their app wired in automatically * Docker would not be the right solution for someone who wants to use httpd over the long haul (future updates to httpd+libs while maintain existing config, etc.); beyond the complication of container layers to manage this properly, these folks should have packaging that's managed like other software on their system so that they don't have to learn any new concepts > > > > > Best, > > Victor > > -- > > Victor J. Orlikowski <> victor.j.orlikow...@alumni.duke.edu > > <mailto:victor.j.orlikow...@alumni.duke.edu> > > > > -- Born in Roswell... married an alien... http://emptyhammock.com/
