Hi Kyriakos,

maybe you can give https://github.com/icing/mod_h2/releases/tag/v1.8.8 a try in 
your setup? I would be interested if it gets rid of the 100ms delay in response 
processing. Thanks!

Cheers,

Stefan

> Am 04.01.2017 um 19:27 schrieb Kyriakos Zarifis <kyr.zari...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Yes, this is making a big, obvservable difference!
> 
> Specifically, in all 3 repeats, the high priority stream is now served 100ms 
> after it was received, writing ~100 frames (~1.6MB) of currently served, 
> lower-priority stream.   (was: 500ms, 500frames(~7.5MB))
> 
> In more detail, after the high-prio request is received, 20 more low-prio 
> frames are served before the h2_task for it logs that it opens the output for 
> the new stream. Then, another 80 low-frames are served before the high-prio 
> reply is written. (relevant logs below)
> 
> This already has an observable impact on the transition to the next page the 
> moment I click on the link (goes from 1.5sec to less than 500ms), which I 
> think is great because this tweak is relevant not just to this scenario, but 
> to any higher level stream that begins while lower ones are served, even 
> within a single page.
> 
> I'm wondering if the change you made can be pushed harder to make the switch 
> to the new stream even faster, e.g. avoiding even those 100 frames?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Kyriakos
> 
> 
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.577687 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] h2_stream.c(213): 
> [client] AH03082: h2_stream(0-19): opened
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.577758 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] 
> h2_session.c(452): [client] AH03066: h2_session(0): recv 
> FRAME[HEADERS[length=39, hend=1, stream=19, eos=1]], frames=13/1486 (r/s)
> 
> 20 x lower-prio frames:
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.577864 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] 
> h2_session.c(685): [client] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> FRAME[DATA[length=16275, flags=0, stream=5, padlen=0]], frames=16/1486 (r/s)
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.578775 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] h2_task.c(106): 
> [client] AH03348: h2_task(0-19): open output to GET 204.57.7.200 
> /preposition/nextnav.html
> 
> 80 x lower-prio frames:
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.578790 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] 
> h2_session.c(685): [client] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> FRAME[DATA[length=16275, flags=0, stream=5, padlen=0]], frames=16/1504 (r/s)
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.682168 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] 
> h2_session.c(685): [client] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> FRAME[HEADERS[length=87, hend=1, stream=19, eos=0]], frames=16/1587 (r/s)
> 
> 
> [Wed Jan 04 10:14:48.682186 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 24864] 
> h2_session.c(685): [client] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> FRAME[DATA[length=456, flags=1, stream=19, padlen=0]], frames=16/1588 (r/s)
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Eissing <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de> 
> wrote:
> Hi Kyriakos,
> 
> sorry for not replying earlier. I could find the issue you ran into, namely 
> that mod_http2 is obsessed with the streams it already has and does not 
> submit ready responses - until the existing streams are done or pause.
> 
> I hope that the new release works much more nicely for you. You find it at 
> https://github.com/icing/mod_h2/releases/tag/v1.8.7
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stefan
> 
> > Am 02.01.2017 um 23:33 schrieb Kyriakos Zarifis <kyr.zari...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Thanks Stefan!
> >
> > I just tried the tweaked version. I think I am seeing similar behavior, 
> > i.e. the higher-prio HTML reply is sent ~500ms after its request is 
> > received, writing ~500 lower-prio DATA frames (~7.5MB) in the meantime.
> >
> > Before any conclusions, I wanted to make sure I compiled/used the tweaked 
> > mod properly with my existing Apache/2.4.25 on Ubuntu, since I haven't done 
> > the process before: I couldn't find details on the right way to swap in/out 
> > module versions, so I ended up compiling v.1.8.6 and pointing to the 
> > created mod_http2.so in "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/http2.load", but I'm 
> > really not sure that's the right way. The only way I verified it was seeing 
> > this in /var/log/apache2/error.log:
> >
> > "[http2:info] [pid 24935] AH03090: mod_http2 (v1.8.6-git, 
> > feats=CHPRIO+SHA256+INVHD, nghttp2 1.17.0), initializing..."
> >
> >
> > Assuming this is an acceptable way to use the tweaked version of the module 
> > (please let me know if not), where should I share two apache log files (one 
> > trace for each module version) so you could verify what I see?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A few relevant lines from the v1.8.6 run (similar to the stable module, 
> > AFAICT):
> >
> > [Mon Jan 02 13:59:59.636519 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 26718] 
> > h2_session.c(439): [client ] AH03066: h2_session(0): recv 
> > FRAME[HEADERS[length=39, hend=1, stream=19, eos=1]], frames=13/1721 (r/s)
> > [Mon Jan 02 13:59:59.637099 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 26718] h2_task.c(106): 
> > [client ] AH03348: h2_task(0-19): open output to GET  
> > /preposition/nextnav.html
> >
> > [ ... continue sending ~500 DATA frames for streams 7-11 ...]
> >
> > [Mon Jan 02 14:00:00.177350 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 26718] 
> > h2_session.c(661): [client ] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> > FRAME[HEADERS[length=87, hend=1, stream=19, eos=0]], frames=16/2209 (r/s)
> > [Mon Jan 02 14:00:00.177366 2017] [http2:debug] [pid 26718] 
> > h2_session.c(661): [client ] AH03068: h2_session(0): sent 
> > FRAME[DATA[length=456, flags=1, stream=19, padlen=0]], frames=16/2210 
> > (r/s)8.6
> >
> > [ ... continue sending streams 11 onwards ...]
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Stefan Eissing 
> > <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de> wrote:
> > Hi Kyriakos,
> >
> > have a look at https://github.com/icing/mod_h2/releases/tag/v1.8.6
> >
> > That version flushes when at least 2 TLS records are ready to send. Also, 
> > frame sizes are now aligned to TLS record sizes. So they are influenced by 
> > the H2TLSWarmUpSize and H2TLSCoolDownSecs settings.
> >
> > Additionally, and highly experimental, I added H2TLSFlushCount to configure 
> > the number of records to flush. You may play around with it (default is 2) 
> > in your scenarios.
> >
> > I hope that this reduces buffering and makes the server more (another word 
> > for agile, pls) to stream changes. Please let me know if that had any 
> > effect on your tests.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > > Am 29.12.2016 um 12:40 schrieb Kyriakos Zarifis <kyr.zari...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > That means the images should get a minim of ~30% of the available 
> > > bandwidth as long as they have data. My reading.
> > >
> > > Right. Makes sense.
> >
> > Stefan Eissing
> >
> > <green/>bytes GmbH
> > Hafenstrasse 16
> > 48155 Münster
> > www.greenbytes.de
> >
> >
> 
> Stefan Eissing
> 
> <green/>bytes GmbH
> Hafenstrasse 16
> 48155 Münster
> www.greenbytes.de
> 
> 

Stefan Eissing

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