I have experienced some gradle development projects and want to share some thoughts.
The flexibility and faster speed of gradle itself can certainly bring some advantages, but it will also greatly increase the troubleshooting time due to the bugs of gradle itself, and gradle DSL is very different from that of maven. There are also many learning costs for developers in the community. I think it does consume too much time on code release, but users or developers usually only compile part of the module. So I think, a certain advantage in build time alone is not enough to cover so much cost. Best, Zhaojing Gary Li <gar...@apache.org> 于2022年10月17日周一 19:22写道： > Hi folks, > > I'd share my thoughts as well. I personally won't build the whole project > too often, only before push to the remote branch or make big changes in > different modules. If I just make some changes and run a test, the IDE will > only build the necessary modules I believe. In addition, each time I deal > with dependency issues, the years of maven experience does help me locate > the issue quickly, especially when the dependency tree is pretty > complicated. The learning effort and the new environment setup effort are > considerable as well. > > Happy to learn if there are other benefits gradle or bazel could bring to > us, but if the only benefit is the xx% faster build time, I am a bit > unconvinced to make this change. > > Best, > Gary > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:58 PM Danny Chan <danny0...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I have a full experience with how Apache Calcite switches from Maven > > to Gradle, and I want to share some thoughts. > > > > The gradle build is fast, but it relies heavily on its local cache, > > usually it needs too much time to download these cache jars because > > gradle upgrade itself very frequently. > > > > The gradle is very flexive for building, but it also has many bugs, > > you may need more time to debug its bug compared with building with > > maven. > > > > The gradle DSL for building is a must to learn for all the developers. > > > > For all above cases, I don't think switching to gradle is a right > > decision for Apache Calcite. Julian Hyde which is the creator of > > Calcite may have more words to say here. > > > > So I would not suggest we do that for Hudi. > > > > > > Best, > > Danny Chan > > > > Shiyan Xu <xu.shiyan.raym...@gmail.com> 于2022年10月1日周六 13:48写道： > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to raise a discussion around the build tool for Hudi. > > > > > > Maven has been a mature yet slow (10min to build on 2021 macbook pro) > > build > > > tool compared to modern ones like gradle or bazel. We all want faster > > > builds, however, we also need to consider the efforts and risks to > > upgrade, > > > and the developers' feedback on usability. > > > > > > What do you all think about upgrading to gradle or bazel? Please share > > your > > > thoughts. Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > Best, > > > Shiyan > > >
