Alexander,

Please feel free to create a JIRA ticket. Hope that someone will start working 
on it soon.

—
Denis

> On Jan 11, 2017, at 11:05 PM, Alexey Goncharuk <agoncha...@gridgain.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is relevant. All of these structures are not replaced with page 
> memory.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org 
> <mailto:dma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> Alex G.,
> 
> Will this be still relevant in 2.0 when we’re expecting to release the page 
> memory?
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-3477 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-3477>
> 
> —
> Denis
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Alexandr Kuramshin <ein.nsk...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:ein.nsk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi community,
>> 
>> I'd like to share my investigations about the subject.
>> 
>> Even if the caches is off-heap and contains no data, the JVM heap memory
>> consumed. I'm calling this feature "empty cache memory overhead"
>> ("overhead" later for shot).
>> 
>> The size of the memory consumed depends on many factors, and varying from 1
>> to 50 Mb per cache on every node in the cluster.
>> 
>> There is real systems uses >1000 caches within the cluster. So the heap
>> memory consumed on each node will be 50 Gb or more.
>> 
>> I've found that overhead mainly depends on this factors:
>> 
>> 1) local partitions count assigned to the node by the affinity function;
>> 
>> 1.a) total number of partitions of the affinity function;
>> 
>> 1.b) number of backups;
>> 
>> 2) IGNITE_ATOMIC_CACHE_DELETE_HISTORY_SIZE
>> 
>> 3) IGNITE_AFFINITY_HISTORY_SIZE
>> 
>> After analyzing heapdumps and the sources I've found this countable objects
>> upon overhead depends:
>> 
>> 1) First group.
>> 
>> GridDhtPartitionTopologyImpl = cache count
>> 
>> GridDhtLocalPartition = cache count * local partitions count
>> 
>> GridCircularBuffer$Item = cache count * local partitions count * item
>> factor (default 32).
>> 
>> Local partitions count = affinity function total partitions / node count *
>> (1 + number of backups)
>> 
>> Item factor = map capacity for storing ->
>> IGNITE_ATOMIC_CACHE_DELETE_HISTORY_SIZE / affinity function partitions
>> count, but minimum 20.
>> 
>> Real values:
>> 
>> GridDhtPartitionTopologyImpl = 1000
>> Affinity function total partitions = 1024
>> Node count = 16
>> Number of backups = 3
>> Local partitions count = 256
>> GridDhtLocalPartition = 256_000
>> GridCircularBuffer$Item = 8_192_000
>> 
>> 2) Second group.
>> 
>> GridAffinityAssignmentCache = cache count * node count
>> 
>> GridAffinityAssignment = cache count * node count * assignment factor
>> 
>> Assignment factor depends on topology version and
>> IGNITE_AFFINITY_HISTORY_SIZE, default 6-7.
>> 
>> Real values:
>> 
>> GridAffinityAssignmentCache = 16_000
>> GridAffinityAssignment  = 112_000
>> 
>> I think the implementation should be changed in the way the object counts
>> should depends on cache data size. And the small (or empty) caches should
>> be more lightweight as possible.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Thanks,
>> Alexandr Kuramshin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alexey Goncharuk
> Lead Architect
> GridGain Systems, Inc.
> www.gridgain.com <http://www.gridgain.com/>

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