Hi Igniters. I have one more possible blockers - deadlock in archiver - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9761. I almost fixed it. It seems it should be include to scope.
-- Best regards, Anton Kalashnikov 02.10.2018, 00:08, "Dmitriy Setrakyan" <dsetrak...@apache.org>: > Thanks, got it. > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:14 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here I agree with Vladimir. Furthermore, I do my absolute best to finalize >> all reviews in all 2.7 tickets I'm related to. I think most of the >> contributors doing the same. >> >> пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 23:03, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>: >> >> > This is precisely the scope we have at the moment. All these tickets were >> > considered carefully on whether to include them into AI 2.7 scope. I >> would >> > say that 10-15% of current tickets may be moved furhter. >> > >> > Third of current tickets are features on their final review stages (e.g. >> > TDE, MVCC invoke, TensorFlow, Thin Clients), another big part is >> > stabilization tickets (mainly - various test failures), and another big >> > part is infrastructure (adopting new modules, Java 9+ support, etc.). So >> > despite big absolute number, most of these tickets are grouped around >> > several big areas, and overall progress over this week should be very >> good. >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 9:50 PM Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > If this filter is for 2.7 release, then I do not believe all these >> > tickets >> > > will be closed. It would be nice to leave only "must-have" tickets in >> 2.7 >> > > and move the rest to 2.8. >> > > >> > > D. >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:02 AM Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Igniters, >> > > > >> > > > Please use this filter, as it properly handles tickets without >> > > components: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=(project%20%3D%20%27Ignite%27%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%272.7%27)%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20(component%20is%20null%20or%20component%20not%20in%20(documentation)))%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:18 PM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hello, Igniters. >> > > > > >> > > > > I announce scope freeze for an Apache Ignite 2.7 release. >> > > > > >> > > > > It means: >> > > > > >> > > > > 1. We add to 2.7 only critical bugs. >> > > > > 2. We merge to 2.7 branch only previously announces features. >> > > > > 3. I expect we should exclude or *MERGE ALL TASKS FOR 2.7 DUE TO >> > > OCTOBER >> > > > > 10*. >> > > > > So the *October 10 is DEADLINE* for new features. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thoughts? >> > > > > >> > > > > For now we have 34 In Progress tickets planned to 2.7 version [1]. >> > > > > So is you assigned to any of this ticker friendly reminder #1, *the >> > > > > deadline is near :)*. >> > > > > >> > > > > [1] >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8803?jql=(project%20%3D%20%27Ignite%27%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%272.7%27)%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20component%20!%3D%20documentation%20)%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > В Пн, 01/10/2018 в 16:13 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет: >> > > > > > Agree with Andrey. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > IGNITE-9723 will be merged to ignite-2.7 branch soon. >> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM Andrey Kuznetsov < >> stku...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Igniters, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is an inaccuracy in critical worker termination >> detection, >> > > and >> > > > > I'm >> > > > > > > working on a fix right now, see [1]. Also, we have trivial yet >> > > > > important >> > > > > > > fix [2], this one is ready to merge. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I deem both should get to 2.7. Any objections? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9744 >> > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9723 >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 13:13, Dmitriy Pavlov < >> > dpavlov....@gmail.com >> > > >: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Folks, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > We can consider this thread as an almost healthy discussion >> > about >> > > > SG >> > > > > > > > inclusion to 2.7. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For the future, I encourage all Igniters to discuss things >> > before >> > > > > agreement >> > > > > > > > on dev.list instead of trying to log 'some pre-build >> > agreements' >> > > > > here. BTW >> > > > > > > > such logged 'agreements' are not always valid. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev list is not a log of community actions; it is the >> principal >> > > > > place where >> > > > > > > > discussion runs. I sincerely hope all similar decisions will >> be >> > > > > building on >> > > > > > > > the dev list. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely, >> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > вс, 30 сент. 2018 г. в 10:49, Nikolay Izhikov < >> > > nizhi...@apache.org >> > > > >: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello, guys. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I moved SG tasks to 2.8. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > В Сб, 29/09/2018 в 17:11 +0300, Vladimir Ozerov пишет: >> > > > > > > > > > I fully support Dmitry's concerns. I do not see a single >> > > chance >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Service >> > > > > > > > > > Grid to be included into 2.7 scope, but we are still >> > keeping >> > > > hope >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > alive. >> > > > > > > > > > What for? Our experience shows, that any feature >> involving >> > > > > consensus >> > > > > > > > > > algorithms typically take weeks to be finalized after >> > initial >> > > > > public >> > > > > > > > > > review. Yes, it is possible that at some day in October >> we >> > > will >> > > > > see it >> > > > > > > > > > completed, but what about testing? What about regressions >> > > with >> > > > > other >> > > > > > > > > > components? Let me reming you that from Monday a lot of >> > > efforts >> > > > > will be >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > put >> > > > > > > > > > into project stabilization. This is the sole purpose of >> > that >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > pre-release >> > > > > > > > > > phase. Accepting a patch with deep rework of Ignite >> > internals >> > > > in >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > middle >> > > > > > > > > > of that process, means that our effrots will be lost. >> This >> > is >> > > > > simply a >> > > > > > > > > > matter of respect to contributor's time. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Another problem is that this false hope puts us at rush. >> > Rush >> > > > > during >> > > > > > > > > > design, development, review, testing. Result is known - >> bad >> > > > > features, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > which >> > > > > > > > > > makes damage to the project. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > So my question is - why don't we just want to move it to >> AI >> > > 2.8 >> > > > > right >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > now? >> > > > > > > > > > Feature is big, feature is very far from being ready. >> This >> > > > simple >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > action >> > > > > > > > > > immediately shifts the focus from dates to quality of the >> > > > > product, and >> > > > > > > > > > remove any risks that potential merge will defeat >> > > stabilization >> > > > > effrots >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > > other contributors. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM Vyacheslav Daradur < >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hot redeployment and versioning will not be implemented >> > in >> > > > > phase 1, >> > > > > > > > > > > but it is scheduled once it is finished. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here is an umbrella ticket [1] to track phase 1 scope. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It includes very few new features, but we completely >> > rework >> > > > > component >> > > > > > > > > > > to improve guarantees to be more reliable and we build >> > the >> > > > > base for >> > > > > > > > > > > new features. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9607 >> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:38 PM Dmitriy Setrakyan < >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure I can agree. SG redesign includes: >> > > > > > > > > > > > - hot redeployment >> > > > > > > > > > > > - versioning >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, features like these take about 1 >> > month >> > > to >> > > > > test >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > properly >> > > > > > > > > > > > and fix all the bugs, including redeployment tests >> and >> > > > > restart >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > tests >> > > > > > > > > on >> > > > > > > > > > > > larger topologies, together with overnight runs. If >> > this >> > > > > type of >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > testing >> > > > > > > > > > > > has not been performed, I think it would be >> > unreasonable >> > > to >> > > > > expect >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > this >> > > > > > > > > > > > feature making it into the release. >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone comment on the testing? >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > D. >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:38 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, because I think you're a do'er, but not a >> > > > > commenter, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > like >> > > > > > > > > me, >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > example, I can trust your opinion. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will join review if I have spare cycles. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 20:34, Denis Magda < >> > > > > dma...@apache.org>: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for stepping in and giving more context. >> In >> > > > > general, I'm >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > fully for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your proposal below: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of >> > new >> > > > > cool >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > features. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of >> > the >> > > > > year with >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SG >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM Nikolay Izhikov >> < >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we shouldn't put so many emotions in >> > > > > discussion of >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > any >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contribution. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even so big and important as SG redesign. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The crucial point we all agreed about: Service >> > Grid >> > > > > redesign >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > a >> > > > > > > > > big >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can significally improve Ignite. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all want to have it in the product. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me write my vision of the current task >> state: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Design of SG is discussed *and aligned* >> both: >> > > > > privately >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > with >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignite >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts(Vladimir Ozerov, Alexey Goncharyuk, >> Anton >> > > > > Vinogradov, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Denis >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mekhanikov) >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and publicly on dev-list. This task is done. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Current PR state - *on my review*. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spend some time with this contribution and >> gave >> > > > > Vyacheslav >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > feedback. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect he can fix my comments in a day or >> two. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seem we can ask of Anton Vinogradov review on >> the >> > > > > beginning >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > next >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > week. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Dmitriy or any community member wants to >> help >> > > *by >> > > > > doing >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > things, >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussing them on dev-list*. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, join to the review - you are welcome. >> PR >> > is >> > > > > here [1] >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I think, we have two mutually exclusive >> > options >> > > > > regarding >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. We release 2.7 in planned dates. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. We include SG in release scope. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of >> > new >> > > > > cool >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > features. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of >> > the >> > > > > year with >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SG >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, while we preparing release a lot of >> > things >> > > > can >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > happen. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's come back to discussion of SG release >> > version >> > > > > *when it >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > will >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be merged to master*. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, does it makes sense for you? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4434 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пт, 28/09/2018 в 19:47 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov >> > > пишет: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The design is aligned totally. The thread you >> > > > > mention was >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > named >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > properly. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me some community members are >> > trying >> > > to >> > > > > take >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > over the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and lead it instead of doing. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of the Apache community, I value >> > > > > Do-ocracy and >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > power >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who do, but not just disagree. There are no >> > > leaders >> > > > > in open >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > source, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do'ers. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By do'ers here I mean Nikolay and Vyacheslav. >> > For >> > > > > me, their >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > conclusion >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more weight here. If Vladimir is ready to >> lead >> > an >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > additional >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SG >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and SG developers agree, it works for me. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 19:39, Dmitriy >> > Setrakyan < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We agreed in the beginning of this thread >> > that >> > > > > Service >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Grid >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > changes >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going to make the release because the >> > community >> > > > > still did >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > approve >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design. Nothing has changed since. I have >> not >> > > > seen >> > > > > any >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > design >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, I have no confidence that >> the >> > > > > Service Grid >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > changes >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it into the 2.8 release. The 2.7 release >> > seems >> > > > out >> > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > question >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > altogether. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Nikolay is a release manager. We >> should >> > > let >> > > > > him >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > drive the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. To >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my knowledge, he is doing a great job and >> the >> > > > > release is >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > going >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the schedule he proposed. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:31 AM Dmitriy >> > Pavlov >> > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, Vladimir, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we stop this nonsense with >> > release >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dates-pushing >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > because >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open question. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you disagreed with any >> > > > > include/exclude >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > something >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > into >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not mean that whole community >> > disagreed. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If folks will start a separate discussion >> > > with >> > > > > results >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > of the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review, I >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no reasons to reject their contribution, >> > even >> > > > if >> > > > > we >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > need >> > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > revisit >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements and wait for a couple of days >> > > more. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing some reason why dates are so >> > > > > fundamentally >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > important >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 12:20, Dmitriy >> > > > Setrakyan < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If services is not ready, which it is >> > not, >> > > > > then we >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > should >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > include >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the next release. There is no need to >> > force >> > > > > them into >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2.7. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest we >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move according to the schedule we all >> > > agreed >> > > > > on. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM Dmitriy >> > > > Pavlov >> > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, so correct statement is >> "community >> > > did >> > > > > not >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > make >> > > > > > > > > any >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decisions >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > services not go to 2.7/ services are >> > out >> > > of >> > > > > scope". >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, please forgive me my >> confusion. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:19, >> Vladimir >> > > > > Ozerov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So correct statement is >> “it >> > is >> > > > up >> > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > *community* >> > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something goes to 2.7”. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:11, >> Dmitriy >> > > > > Pavlov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is up to the community to >> > > > discuss >> > > > > after >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > their >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > review >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, >> > > Vladimir >> > > > > Ozerov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I read your words correctly >> > > that >> > > > > it is up >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementor >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature to decide whether >> release >> > > of >> > > > > all >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > other >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > features >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixes >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delayed? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:00, >> > > Dmitriy >> > > > > Pavlov >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point we can wait a bit >> for >> > > > > services >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > because >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 we are open-minded and we >> > > don't >> > > > > have >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > outside >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressure >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 and services it is not >> some >> > > new >> > > > > feature, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > which >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeared >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > autumn, it is a well known >> and >> > > > > important >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > feature. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is up to Vyacheslav, >> > Anton >> > > > and >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Nikolay >> > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > decide. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decisions can be services are >> > not >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ready/ready to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > merge >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > master/ready >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to merge to master and to >> 2.7. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 10:46, >> > > > > Vladimir >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ozerov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community agreement was to >> > > > perform >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait a bit for services. >> Then >> > > we >> > > > > wait a >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bit for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > other >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cool >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by that time, then again >> and >> > > > > again, and >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > will >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while we are waiting for >> new >> > > > > features to >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > come, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completerd >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be used by anyone. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is why we have an >> > > agreement >> > > > > that if >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > feature is >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moved to future release, >> > > instead >> > > > of >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > shifting >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > release. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sole >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reason >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have strict dates when >> > > decisions >> > > > > are made >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > is >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > to let >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at >> 2:22 >> > AM >> > > > > Dmitriy >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Pavlov >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir, I'm not >> > searching >> > > > for >> > > > > enemy, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy about cases when we >> > are >> > > > > hurrying. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't fix test, fill >> > > ticket >> > > > > details, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > can't >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > wait >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finish their tasks. It >> is >> > > not >> > > > > best >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > idea >> > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > use >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commercial >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies in open source. >> > Are >> > > > > there any >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > pressure >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > outside >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone promised rest of >> > > > > features to be >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > released >> > > > > > > > > > > > > at >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > September? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's remember principle >> > > > > do-orcracy, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > power of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > those >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contribor >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does change and reviewer >> > does >> > > > > review, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > let's >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > give >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decision >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to them, but not to some >> > > closed >> > > > > club of >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > 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