Please post the link to this thread when you'll create the topic to close
this discussion
>From my side, unfortunately, I'm not ready to be a driver of the 2.8
release, but could as one of the Santa's helpers.

чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 20:12, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:

> Folks,
>
> I'll create an appropriate topic.
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:00, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the
> one
> > who will be driving/managing it.
> >
> > -
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Scope:
> > >
> > > * master fixes
> > > * ML improvements
> > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > * New implementation of Service Grid
> > >
> > >
> > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет:
> > > > Alexey, Denis,
> > > >
> > > > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master
> > > > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should
> > > > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that
> > > > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also
> > > > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough
> > > > to fix them. Am I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for
> years.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev <
> zaleslaw....@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is
> ready or
> > > > > will be ready to release in a few months
> > > > >
> > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for 2.8 from me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scope:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * master fixes
> > > > > > * ML improvements
> > > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет:
> > > > > > > +1 for 2.8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <
> dpav...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state.
> Let's
> > > not
> > > > > >
> > > > > > freeze
> > > > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org
> >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number
> of
> > > issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the
> next
> > > year,
> > > > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate
> > > solution can
> > > > > >
> > > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more
> > > hardened with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For
> > > instance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered
> > > critical
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML
> module
> > > till 1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due
> to
> > > known
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > bugs)
> > > > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I
> will
> > > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > happy in
> > > > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula
> > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > above.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > mmu...@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing
> > > Apache
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov <
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov
> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start
> discussion of
> > > 2.7
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > release,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev
> > > пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting
> for
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > release of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I
> > > understand we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have
> cool
> > > > > >
> > > > > > changes in
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember
> 2018).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the
> > > special
> > > > > >
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the taste
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML
> plus
> > > all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > known
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > issues for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql
> > > > > >
> > > > > > component and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community
> > > side and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > deliver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark
> > > integration
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ready
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core
> component
> > > in the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters?
> > >
>

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