Folks,
The new thread with 2.8 RELEASE discussion has been scheduled. http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-8-RELEASE-Time-Scope-Manager-td43616.html On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:24, Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Please post the link to this thread when you'll create the topic to close > this discussion > From my side, unfortunately, I'm not ready to be a driver of the 2.8 > release, but could as one of the Santa's helpers. > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 20:12, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > > > Folks, > > > > I'll create an appropriate topic. > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 20:00, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, let's start an official discussion about 2.8 release and select the > > one > > > who will be driving/managing it. > > > > > > - > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:01 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Scope: > > > > > > > > * master fixes > > > > * ML improvements > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views. > > > > * New implementation of Service Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 18:56 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет: > > > > > Alexey, Denis, > > > > > > > > > > I've always thought that we are living in a paradigm that `the master > > > > > branch is the release ready branch`. Don't we? If so, then we should > > > > > take additional attention to commits we make, because it's true that > > > > > we have some `blocker` release issues in the master branch. I also > > > > > think all these issues are solvable and 2+ months is more than enough > > > > > to fix them. Am I missing something? > > > > > > > > > > I'm +1 for 2.8 release. We should not hold the master branch for > > years. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:52, Alexey Zinoviev < > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > No objection from my side if somebody could say that master is > > ready or > > > > > > will be ready to release in a few months > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 14:21, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for 2.8 from me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * master fixes > > > > > > > * ML improvements > > > > > > > * IEP-35: Metric + System views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Чт, 19/09/2019 в 14:14 +0300, Pavel Tupitsyn пишет: > > > > > > > > +1 for 2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should not hold master anymore, it has been a year already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:42 PM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > dpav...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like both options 2.7.7 & 2.8 both have their benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But someday we will anyway need to release master state. > > Let's > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freeze > > > > > > > > > master for years as Zookeeper did with 3.0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I like option with 2.8 release more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 19 сент. 2019 г. в 01:42, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.8 release cycle can last for many months due to a number > > of > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > regressions we need to address. It can easily slip to the > > next > > > > year, > > > > > > > > > > especially considering the holiday season. An alternate > > > > solution can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > series of Ignite 2.7.x releases that are becoming more > > > > hardened with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > version and go with a small and manageable changeset. For > > > > instance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Thin Clients optimizations with fixes for newly discovered > > > > critical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > can be released in 2.7.7 and 2.7.8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for 2.8, what exactly are we planning to release there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Nikolay Izhikov < > > > > nizhi...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start of December for 2.8 sounds good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 13:38 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me, I will be ready to release ML > > module > > > > till 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > December > > > > > > > > > > > > (end of September is not appropriate for ML module due > > to > > > > known > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs) > > > > > > > > > > > > If the whole Ignite could be released to this date I > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy in > > > > > > > > > > > > another case I suggest the minor release by the formula > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's ask another module maintainers here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 18 сент. 2019 г. в 13:00, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > mmu...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree, we should start a discussion about releasing > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > version right after 2.7.6 will be announced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Nikolay Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2.7 release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 2.8, of course. Sorry, for typo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:36 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov > > пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have no chance to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, we should start > > discussion of > > > > 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortly(end of September of similar) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Ср, 18/09/2019 в 12:04 +0300, Alexey Zinoviev > > > > пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Igniters, for the whole year I'm waiting > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Ignite with number 2.8 or 3.0. As I > > > > understand we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chance to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release the whole master branch, but we have > > cool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that were not released since 2.7 (Nomember > > 2018). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ready to become a release manager of the > > > > special > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the taste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of new ML by the formula: 2.7.6 plus new ML > > plus > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7.6 release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reason: ML has a limited dependency on core/sql > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delivered without major changes in 2.7.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to found the support from the community > > > > side and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deliver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another components like Thin Clients, Spark > > > > integration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component without strong ties with core > > component > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > future > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this way (in release 2.7.9 for example) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think, Igniters? > > > > > >