Folks, Ok, let's have a discussion using the ASF Slack on September 25-th, 17-00 (MSK) I've created the channel [1] #ignite-release-2_8 Please, join.
I don't think we should postpone the discussion by November but should plan and discuss for now the next release dates. In this way, the community members will be able to plan their activities by these dates. As Alexey mentioned, planing the release for 2 months is a good practice. From my point, if some components will not be ready by previously discussed `scope freeze` date it is absolutely OK to perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1, 2.8.2) releases. Currently, Apache Ignite has more than enough features to release. For instance, the thin client transactions support feature has been merged [2] to the master branch and this is great! Again, let's plan and let's discuss the release dates and our expectations. [1] https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9410 On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 18:04, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hello, Andrey. > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. > > Can you clarify, what exactly is not ready? > Can we track planned changes somehow? > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет: > > Igniters, > > > > From my point of view monitoring isn't ready for release. So it would > > be great to return to this discussion later. It seems that beginning > > of November is good time for it. > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's arrange the talk in ASF slack between 16 and 19 > > > MSK, is it possible? > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35, Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the situation > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets we > > > > should address to? > > > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics that are not finished yet, due to limited > > > > free > > > > time the planned dates were written earlier > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a > > > > year? > > > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code freeze to your dates but not to 1 November, > > > > it > > > > sounds weird (why we should go so fast if haven't released during the > > > > year) > > > > I'm against fast releasing without planned dates. > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have some > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components. > > > > > > > > The best idea here is ability to merge the last ML changes during > > > > stabilization period (bug fixing, tests and so on), is it ok for you? > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good point, but remind you guys, the normal practice to > > > > plan release for 2 months and ask another maintainers about another > > > > modules > > > > maybe the need additional clarification from another committers. > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 13:35, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing 2.8 in November or even in the end of October. > > > > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule some quick meetings in the new Ignite Slack chat > > > > > and discuss all release date details? > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September is good for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31 +0300, Maxim Muzafarov пишет: > > > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you, please, clarify some questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML module is like a black box for me. What exactly > > > > > > we are expected to get by the code freeze date? Do we have tickets > > > > > > we > > > > > > should address to? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code freeze date to December 11-th but, from > > > > > > your side, do you think that 2-weeks of stabilization and regression > > > > > > will be enough for the master branch living without release for a > > > > > > year? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about that we will make the huge 2.8 release in > > > > > > November with long period of branch stabilization and an additional > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML component in January? Such an approach have > > > > > > some > > > > > > advantages like we will not rush the development of ML components. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:24, Alexey Zinoviev > > > > > > <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code freeze at December 18, 2019, ok, we can move > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > week > > > > > > > earlier to 11 December > > > > > > > Voting + Release could be after 10th January. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 15:43, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a problem to shift release a bit later or earlier, > > > > > > > > but I'm > > > > > > > > strictly against having `code freeze` stage on holidays (the > > > > > > > > > > Christmas > > > > > > > > holidays at the end of December and New Year holidays at the > > > > > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > of January). From my point, it's better to have it completed > > > > > > > > `code > > > > > > > > freeze` stage before December 23th or started after 10th > > > > > > > > January. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > <dpav...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as release manager. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good thing that you have committer rights, and most of > > > > > > > > > > the steps > > > > > > > > > you will be able to complete yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But please engage one from PMC member to complete steps from > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > process where PMC rights are required > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process At > > > > > > > > > least, access to docker and nuget creds requires PMC > > > > > > > > > membership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping me, I will assist, as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:59, Alexey Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and ML components the best dates should be moved > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > one month > > > > > > > > > > later, what's about? > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of features there, but a lot of bugs and > > > > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > improvements in JIRA too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support you as a release manager > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: December 4, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: December 18, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: January 10, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: January 17, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г. в 14:44, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a year has passed since the last major Apache > > > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > has been released. We've accumulated a lot of performance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of new features which are waiting for their > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my list of the most interesting things from my > > > > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > last major release: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid, > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring, > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read > > > > > > > > > > > BLT auto-adjust, > > > > > > > > > > > PDS compression, > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page compression, > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: best effort affinity, > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client: transactions support (not yet) > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query history > > > > > > > > > > > SQL statistics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should no longer wait and freeze the master > > > > > > > > > > > branch > > > > > > > > > > anymore > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare the next major release by the end of the year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to discuss Time, Scope of Apache Ignite 2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose myself to be the release manager of the > > > > > > > > > > planning > > > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze: November 4, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze: November 18, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date: December 10, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date: December 17, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > > > >
