Igniters,
Ivan,

Yes, it's true that currently, all resolved issues with 2.8 fixVersion
will get into 2.8 release.
Moreover, I've marked all issues with empty fixVersion filed closed
since 2.7 major release with 2.8 labels.

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 15:03, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Maxim,
>
> Could you please elaborate about a question from Akash. What tickets
> do we consider for release? All with 2.8 fix version in Jira or there
> is a different criteria?
>
> вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 15:01, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Alexey,
> >
> > True. It is definitely to early for Calcite.
> >
> > вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:46, Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > I have no ideas, I think it's enough for this release.
> > >
> > > As I understand it's not the proper time for Calcite integration and so 
> > > on,
> > > isn't it @Igor Seliverstov?
> > >
> > > вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:41, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > Do we want to discuss something?
> > > > What else features do we want to include?
> > > >
> > > > If not, I propose to exclude any other major features (except already
> > > > discussed - ML, Monitoring, Spark) and focus on bug fixing and the
> > > > master branch stabilization.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 17:57, Akash Shinde <akashshi...@gmail.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Because I didn't see it in this list
> > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Releaseissuesgroupedbystatus
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to make sure its a part on 2.8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Akash
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:20 PM Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Akash,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why do you think it is not included? I see fix version 2.8 in ticket
> > > > [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ср, 30 окт. 2019 г. в 17:29, Akash Shinde <akashshi...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >  Could you please include IGNITE-10884
> > > > > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884> in 2.8 
> > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > > issue is blocker for me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Akash
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:38 PM Maxim Muzafarov 
> > > > > > > <mmu...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Folks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems a week ago I've replied with the release info only to
> > > > Artem.
> > > > > > > > Sorry about that :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is what I've collected.
> > > > > > > > Let's discuss!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] with the 
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and about the
> > > > additional
> > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, feel 
> > > > > > > > free to
> > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be completed 
> > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > creating the release branch.
> > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring
> > > > > > > > - ML
> > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but discussion 
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > finalized yet
> > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find and resolve
> > > > > > > > packages conflicts
> > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461
> > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite
> > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189
> > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await may hang a
> > > > cluster
> > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows any
> > > > additional
> > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step in.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key
> > > > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552
> > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and server nodes
> > > > restart
> > > > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite documentation
> > > > sorted
> > > > > > > > by priority.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:53, Maxim Muzafarov 
> > > > > > > > <mmu...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] with the
> > > > list of
> > > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and about the
> > > > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, feel 
> > > > > > > > > free
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be completed 
> > > > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > > > creating the release branch.
> > > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring
> > > > > > > > > - ML
> > > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but discussion 
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > finalized yet
> > > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find and 
> > > > > > > > > resolve
> > > > > > > > > packages conflicts
> > > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461
> > > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite
> > > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189
> > > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await may hang 
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > cluster
> > > > > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows any
> > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step in.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key
> > > > > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552
> > > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and server nodes
> > > > > > restart
> > > > > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION *
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite 
> > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > sorted
> > > > > > > > > by priority.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Details:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 18:18, Artem Budnikov
> > > > > > > > > <a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm glad to see that you care about documentation. Way to 
> > > > > > > > > > go!
> > > > Here
> > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > > couple of points that can help:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1) I think it's safe to assume that Prachi will not work on 
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > > > > documentation any longer. You can take up the issues 
> > > > > > > > > > assigned
> > > > to
> > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > prioritize them whichever way is convenient for yourself. In
> > > > fact,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > can take up other's issues as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2) I'll try to do my best to finish as much documentation
> > > > issues as
> > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > be able to by the release date.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, it looks like that in general we are good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Artem
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 13.10.2019 15:55, Maxim Muzafarov wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ilya,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I agree that issues related to `documentation` can be 
> > > > > > > > > > > safely
> > > > > > > > > > > postponed, however, for me the whole batch of such issues
> > > > looks
> > > > > > > > > > > unmanageable and unclear. At least we should prioritize 
> > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > of
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > complete the maximum that we can by the deadline.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:47, Ilya Kasnacheev <
> > > > > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> Hello!
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I think that Documentation tickets may be safely 
> > > > > > > > > > >> postponed
> > > > until
> > > > > > > > final
> > > > > > > > > > >> stages of release, since it's not included in artifacts,
> > > > rather
> > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > >> on readme.io, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 14:41, Pavel Kovalenko <
> > > > > > jokse...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Issues link is broken, because it has a filter that 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> can't
> > > > be
> > > > > > found.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Here is correct link:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 13:38, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Who can advise what we can\should do with the issues
> > > > related
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> `documentation` component to release Ignite 2.8 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> version?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> How can I sort them and prioritize?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> What are best-practices here?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Currently, we have 81 issues pinned to 2.8 release [1].
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 6 - `In Progress`
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 2 - `Patch Available`
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 73 - `Open`
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Some of the issues are assigned to the `Prachi Garg`
> > > > which is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> active since February 15-th 2019.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12347303&jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 01:52, Denis Magda <
> > > > dma...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> This sounds reasonable to me.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> -
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Denis
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:55 AM Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Since we are focusing on new SQL engine 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> implementation
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> perform bulk moving of all MVCC related unassigned
> > > > tickets
> > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> next release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Can you confirm?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20priority%20in%20(Major)%20and%20summary%20~%20MVCC
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 01:27, Denis Magda <
> > > > dma...@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Alexey Z.,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Could you please answer some of the questions
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator
> > > > Discontinuation
> > > > > > > > [2].
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next release due to
> > > > > > > > dependency on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can we decouple Tensorflow from the IGFS?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark 2.4,
> > > > Monitoring
> > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be sure on
> > > > there is
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in 2.8
> > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Are there any other ML contributors who will be
> > > > helping you
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >>> this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> release?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Denis
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Here is the list of activities we've agreed on to
> > > > prepare
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ignite 2.8 release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Preliminary release dates with the ability to shift
> > > > them
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > >>> of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the planned activities will not be finalized. But
> > > > anyway
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> build our engagement based on these dates.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope Freeze: November 5, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Code Freeze: December 2, 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Voting Date: January 10, 2020
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Release Date: January 17, 2020
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark 2.4,
> > > > Monitoring
> > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be sure on
> > > > there is
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in 2.8
> > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Spark [1] [4] (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Monitoring (Nikolay Izhikov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 3.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and mark all the partially completed major
> > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > >>> currently
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> present in the master branch.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - major IEPs e.g. IEP-18, non-blocking PME (Maxim
> > > > > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - review major commits in the master branch (Maxim
> > > > > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review blocker issues currently pinned to 2.8 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator
> > > > Discontinuation
> > > > > > > > [2].
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next release due to
> > > > > > > > dependency on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-9489 CorruptedTreeException on index 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> create
> > > > [3].
> > > > > > > > Check
> > > > > > > > > > >>> all
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the issues releated to this. Some of them already
> > > > fixed by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> GridGain.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-12181 Rebalance hangs on BLT change. The
> > > > cause
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> found. Will be fixed. (Maxim Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Need to check all the other blocker issues (Maxim
> > > > > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 5.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> QA regression (2.7 -> 2.8). I'll provide additional
> > > > > > details
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> I'll
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> get
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> them.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and check test-cases, optioannly schedule
> > > > meeting
> > > > > > > > (Maxim
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 6.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (optional) Need to create an INFRA ticket to add
> > > > `Epic`
> > > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > > > > >>> issue
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> type to the Apache Ignite JIRA. The issue [6] has 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> been
> > > > > > created
> > > > > > > > > > >>> but
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure that I have the right permission to do so.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/The-Spark-2-4-support-td43777.html
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11942
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [3] 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9489
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [4]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12054
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [5]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12181
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [6] 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19164
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 12:14, Ivan Pavlukhin <
> > > > > > > > > > >>> vololo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Maxim, Folks,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Could you please share a results of the Slack
> > > > discussion
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sep 25?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 15:50, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>> dpav...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for preparing the release page!
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Could you please add Require release notes 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> filter?
> > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> find an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> example
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.7.6
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 11:58, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's true that we are still discussing the 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > dates.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> But
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nevertheless, all the release blockers are
> > > > important
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> some
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> them may require more than one month to be 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> fixed.
> > > > Let's
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> discuss
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> today
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> how we will handle these issues and track
> > > > Monitoring
> > > > > > and ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> major
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> features to get them into the next release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The meeting already scheduled. We will use the 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ASF
> > > > > > Slack on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> September
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 25-th, 17-00 (MSK).
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've created the channel [2] #ignite-release-2_8
> > > > > > please,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> join.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (Discussion will be on Russin language).
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please, also note that I've created the 2.8 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> confluence
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> page
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] with additional information. I will review 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> issues we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and will move some of them to 2.9.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But currently, we've had pinned to 2.8:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 604 open issues
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 57 in progress issues
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 34 patch available issues
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 17 issues marked as the release blockers
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 4 of release blocker issues are unassigned
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 10:21, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> dpav...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose discussion is still at phase
> > > > 0-Initializing
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it is probably no reason to discuss 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> particular
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> blockers. It
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would make
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sense when the process of removal irrelevant
> > > > tickets
> > > > > > > > > > >>> starts
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> (phase
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.2)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> till phase 4-Release candidate building.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 18:53, Anton 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Kalashnikov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> kaa....@yandex.ru
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igniters.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to notice one more blocker for release
> > > > [1].
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> bug
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> lead to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some incorrect baseline default enabled flag
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> calculation(more
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> details
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ticket).
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12227
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton Kalashnikov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24.09.2019, 17:01, "Andrey Gura" <
> > > > ag...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I know, scope freeze is not announced yet.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:41 PM Sergey 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antonov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <antonovserge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi, I would add to release scope my ticket
> > > > [1].
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Any objections?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12225
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 09:21, Nikolay
> > > > Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > merge to master only fully finished
> > > > features
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > It's already true for Ignite master 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > В Вт, 24/09/2019 в 09:03 +0300, Alexey
> > > > Zinoviev
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > The planned before 2_3 months release
> > > > dates
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> good
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> defender
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > partially merged features, In my 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > Or we should have Master and dev 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> separetely,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> merge
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > only fully finished features
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 Maxim
> > > > Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mmu...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Andrey,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Agree with you. It can affect the 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> impression.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Can you advise, how can we guarantee
> > > > in our
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> case
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete with
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > current partially merged features 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > > > >>> someone
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> will not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> partially
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > merge the new one? Should we monitor
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> master
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> commits
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > such purpose?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey
> > > > Gura <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ag...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > From my point, if some 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> not be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ready by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > previously discussed `scope
> > > > freeze`
> > > > > > > > > > >>> date
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1,
> > > > 2.8.2)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> releases.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > It is good approach if partial
> > > > > > implemented
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> features
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> aren't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> merged to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > master branch. Unfortunately this 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > >>> our
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> case.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > I don't see any reasons to force 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Ignite
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > not driver for release. If we want
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ignite
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> periodically
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > must
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > significantly review the process. 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> valuable
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> change
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > process is feature branches that
> > > > will not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> block
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> new
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > design.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM
> > > > Andrey
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Gura <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ag...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> > > > monitoring
> > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ready?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can we track planned changes
> > > > somehow?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > We have too many not resolved
> > > > tickets
> > > > > > > > > > >>> under
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> IEP-35
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> label
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]. Also
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > makes sense to do some usability
> > > > > > testing:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> JMX
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> beans
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > system
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > views, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM
> > > > Nikolay
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> > > > monitoring
> > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ready?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can we track planned changes
> > > > somehow?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0300,
> > > > > > Andrey
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Gura
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> > > > monitoring
> > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release. So it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > be great to return to this
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> later.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> It seems
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > of November is good time for
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:37 PM
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's
> > > > > > arrange
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> talk
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in ASF
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> slack
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > between
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > 16 and 19
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17:35,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the
> > > > situation
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML
> > > > module is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> like a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> black box
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > What
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > we are expected to get 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> code
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> date?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Do
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > tickets we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> epics
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> are not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> finished
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, due
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > limited free
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > time the planned dates 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> > > > > > > > > > >>> written
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> earlier
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> > > > > > > > > > >>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> date to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-th
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > but,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > your side, do you think
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 2-weeks of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > regression
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > will be enough for the
> > > > master
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> living
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> without
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> > > > > > > > > > >>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> dates
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > to 1
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > November, it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > sounds weird (why we
> > > > should go
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> fast
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> if
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> haven't
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > during the year)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > I'm against fast 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releasing
> > > > > > > > > > >>> without
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> planned
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> dates.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>> we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> will
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> make the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > November with long 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> period
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> stabilization
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML
> > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> January? Such
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > approach
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > have some
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > advantages like we will 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > rush
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> development
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > components.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > The best idea here is
> > > > ability
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> merge
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> last
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > during
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > stabilization period 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (bug
> > > > > > fixing,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> tests
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and so
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> on),
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > ok
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > for you?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good
> > > > point,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> remind you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> guys, the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > normal
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > practice to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > plan release for 2 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months
> > > > and
> > > > > > ask
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> another
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> maintainers about
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > another modules
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > maybe the need 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> clarification
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > committers.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в
> > > > 13:35,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Nikolay
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Izhikov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > nizhi...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing
> > > > 2.8 in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> November or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> even
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the end
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > October.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > >>> quick
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> meetings in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > Ignite
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Slack chat
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > and discuss all 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > date
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> details?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> September
> > > > is
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13:31
> > > > > > +0300,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Muzafarov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > Can you, please,
> > > > clarify
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> questions.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML
> > > > module
> > > > > > > > > > >>> is
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> like a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> black
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> box
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for me.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > What exactly
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > we are expected to 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > > > by
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> code
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> date?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > tickets we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move
> > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> date to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > 11-th
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > but, from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > your side, do you 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2-weeks of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > regression
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > will be enough for 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > master
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> living
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release for a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will make
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > 2.8
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > November with long
> > > > period
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> component in
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> January?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Such
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > approach have some
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > advantages like we
> > > > will not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> rush
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> development
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > components.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > 17:24,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code
> > > > freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>> at
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> December 18,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2019, ok,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > we
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > can move one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11
> > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release
> > > > could be
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 10th
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> January.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> г.
> > > > в
> > > > > > > > > > >>> 15:43,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a
> > > > problem to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> shift
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> later or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > strictly against
> > > > having
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> `code
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> freeze`
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> stage
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > holidays (the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the
> > > > end of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and New
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Year
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > holidays
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > at the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > of January). 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From
> > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > >>> point,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> it's
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have it
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > completed `code
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage
> > > > before
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 23th
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> started after
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > 10th January.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep
> > > > 2019 at
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 15:09,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > dpav...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> manager.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good
> > > > thing
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> committer
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > rights,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > and most of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will be 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> complete
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> yourself.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But please
> > > > engage one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> from
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> PMC
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> member
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > steps from the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process where 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC
> > > > > > > > > > >>> rights
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> required
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> At
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least, access 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > docker
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nuget creds
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > PMC
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > membership.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ping
> > > > > > me, I
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> will
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> assist, as
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент.
> > > > 2019 г.
> > > > > > в
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 14:59,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Alexey
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > ML
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> components
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the best
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > should
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > be moved to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later, 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's
> > > > > > about?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a
> > > > lot of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> features
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > bugs and minor
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements in
> > > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > >>> as a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> manager
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeze:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 4,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze:
> > > > > > December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 18,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date:
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
> > > > > > January
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> 17,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент.
> > > > 2019
> > > > > > г.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> в
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 14:44,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost a
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> has
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> passed since
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the last
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > major Apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been
> > > > > > released.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> We've
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> accumulated a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > performance
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> features
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> which are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > for
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > their release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my
> > > > list
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> most
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > things
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > from my point
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major
> > > > > > release:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grid,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitoring,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT
> > > > auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS
> > > > compression,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page
> > > > > > > > > > >>> compression,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> client:
> > > > best
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> effort
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> affinity,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> client:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> transactions
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> support
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (not
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet)
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query
> > > > history
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL
> > > > statistics
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we
> > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > >>> no
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> longer
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wait
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > master branch
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >>> next
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> major
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> by
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > end of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > the year.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Time,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope of
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to
> > > > propose
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> myself
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> be the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > manager of the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeze:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> November 4,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freeze:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> November 18,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> December 10,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release 
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 17,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   BR, Sergey Antonov
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Ivan Pavlukhin
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan Pavlukhin
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Ivan Pavlukhin

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