Igniters,
I've found a scary error [1] with `CorruptedTreeException: B+Tree is corrupted` on TC in the master branch. It seems that the issue is related to a [2] tombstone implementation (probably not). Can anyone confirm that the problem is still actual? If it is true, do we have time for resolving the problem? Will it be better to revert this commit from the release branch? [1] https://ci.ignite.apache.org/viewLog.html?buildId=4796925&tab=buildResultsDiv&buildTypeId=IgniteTests24Java8_Cache9#testNameId7609674190425495190 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11704 On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 16:50, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> wrote: > > Igniters, > > > I've had conversations with Nikolay and Alexey about working progress > [1] on ML, Spark, Monitoring features which we are waiting for. It > seems the progress dates is a bit slower than we expected earlier. I'd > suggest the following dates: > > 2 December - the release branch cutting. > 30 December - code freeze of the release branch (only blocker issues allowed) > 27 January 2020 - the voting date (2+ weeks of stabilization period) > > Any objections? > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 18:01, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > Not yet. I will announce the release branch cutting stage with a > > separate post, probably, for a one week before the cut. No one will > > not miss it for sure. > > > > Currently, all issues can safely be pinned to 2.8 release, but for > > huge issues\features (e.g. `baseline topology`, `persistence`) which > > are going to be included into the release, it's better to have a > > separate thread discussion. Do you have such issues in mind? > > > > I'm trying to estimate new release dates due to not all features which > > we are waiting for [1] will be completed by the due dates discussed > > before. > > I'll back soon. > > > > [1] > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 17:46, Alexey Goncharuk > > <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > A side note - we did not cut the 2.8 branch yet, did we? > > > > > > This information is not reflected on the release page and I just realized > > > that it is hard to choose a fix version for a ticket that is being merged > > > to master when release scope is being finalized. This moment is covered > > > neither in the release process nor in the development process (unless I am > > > missing something). > > > > > > ср, 6 нояб. 2019 г. в 13:55, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > Ivan, > > > > > > > > Yes, it's true that currently, all resolved issues with 2.8 fixVersion > > > > will get into 2.8 release. > > > > Moreover, I've marked all issues with empty fixVersion filed closed > > > > since 2.7 major release with 2.8 labels. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 15:03, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > Could you please elaborate about a question from Akash. What tickets > > > > > do we consider for release? All with 2.8 fix version in Jira or there > > > > > is a different criteria? > > > > > > > > > > вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 15:01, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > > > True. It is definitely to early for Calcite. > > > > > > > > > > > > вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:46, Alexey Zinoviev > > > > > > <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no ideas, I think it's enough for this release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it's not the proper time for Calcite integration > > > > > > > and > > > > so on, > > > > > > > isn't it @Igor Seliverstov? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:41, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we want to discuss something? > > > > > > > > What else features do we want to include? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I propose to exclude any other major features (except > > > > already > > > > > > > > discussed - ML, Monitoring, Spark) and focus on bug fixing and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > master branch stabilization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 17:57, Akash Shinde > > > > > > > > <akashshi...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I didn't see it in this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Releaseissuesgroupedbystatus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to make sure its a part on 2.8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Akash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:20 PM Ivan Pavlukhin < > > > > vololo...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Akash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is not included? I see fix version 2.8 > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > ticket > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 30 окт. 2019 г. в 17:29, Akash Shinde < > > > > akashshi...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please include IGNITE-10884 > > > > > > > > > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884> in > > > > > > > > > > > 2.8 > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > issue is blocker for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Akash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:38 PM Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > mmu...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems a week ago I've replied with the release info > > > > only to > > > > > > > > Artem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about that :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I've collected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's discuss! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > the list > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and about > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, > > > > feel free to > > > > > > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be > > > > > > > > > > > > completed > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > > creating the release branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > - ML > > > > > > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but > > > > discussion not > > > > > > > > > > > > finalized yet > > > > > > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find and > > > > resolve > > > > > > > > > > > > packages conflicts > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await may > > > > hang a > > > > > > > > cluster > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step > > > > > > > > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552 > > > > > > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and server > > > > nodes > > > > > > > > restart > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > sorted > > > > > > > > > > > > by priority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:53, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > mmu...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] > > > > with the > > > > > > > > list of > > > > > > > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, > > > > feel free > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be > > > > completed before > > > > > > > > > > > > > creating the release branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but > > > > discussion not > > > > > > > > > > > > finalized yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > resolve > > > > > > > > > > > > > packages conflicts > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await > > > > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > hang a > > > > > > > > > > cluster > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows > > > > any > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and > > > > > > > > > > > > > server > > > > nodes > > > > > > > > > > restart > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > > > sorted > > > > > > > > > > > > > by priority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 18:18, Artem Budnikov > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad to see that you care about documentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way > > > > to go! > > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couple of points that can help: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I think it's safe to assume that Prachi will not > > > > work on the > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation any longer. You can take up the issues > > > > assigned > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prioritize them whichever way is convenient for > > > > yourself. In > > > > > > > > fact, > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can take up other's issues as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I'll try to do my best to finish as much > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > issues as > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be able to by the release date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, it looks like that in general we are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Artem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13.10.2019 15:55, Maxim Muzafarov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ilya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that issues related to `documentation` can > > > > be safely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > postponed, however, for me the whole batch of such > > > > issues > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unmanageable and unclear. At least we should > > > > prioritize all > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complete the maximum that we can by the deadline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:47, Ilya Kasnacheev < > > > > > > > > > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think that Documentation tickets may be safely > > > > postponed > > > > > > > > until > > > > > > > > > > > > final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> stages of release, since it's not included in > > > > artifacts, > > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> on readme.io, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 14:41, Pavel Kovalenko < > > > > > > > > > > jokse...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Issues link is broken, because it has a filter > > > > that can't > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Here is correct link: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 13:38, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Who can advise what we can\should do with the > > > > issues > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> `documentation` component to release Ignite 2.8 > > > > version? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> How can I sort them and prioritize? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> What are best-practices here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Currently, we have 81 issues pinned to 2.8 > > > > release [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 6 - `In Progress` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 2 - `Patch Available` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 73 - `Open` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Some of the issues are assigned to the `Prachi > > > > Garg` > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> active since February 15-th 2019. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12347303&jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 01:52, Denis Magda < > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> This sounds reasonable to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:55 AM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Since we are focusing on new SQL engine > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> perform bulk moving of all MVCC related > > > > unassigned > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> next release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Can you confirm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20priority%20in%20(Major)%20and%20summary%20~%20MVCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 01:27, Denis Magda < > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Alexey Z., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Could you please answer some of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator > > > > > > > > Discontinuation > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > dependency on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can we decouple Tensorflow from the IGFS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 2.4, > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > > > on > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in > > > > 2.8 > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Are there any other ML contributors who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> will be > > > > > > > > helping you > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Muzafarov > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > mmu...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Here is the list of activities we've agreed > > > > on to > > > > > > > > prepare > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ignite 2.8 release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Preliminary release dates with the ability > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > shift > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the planned activities will not be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> finalized. > > > > But > > > > > > > > anyway > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> build our engagement based on these dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope Freeze: November 5, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Code Freeze: December 2, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Voting Date: January 10, 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Release Date: January 17, 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.4, > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > > > on > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in > > > > 2.8 > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Spark [1] [4] (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Monitoring (Nikolay Izhikov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and mark all the partially completed > > > > major > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> currently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> present in the master branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - major IEPs e.g. IEP-18, non-blocking PME > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - review major commits in the master branch > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review blocker issues currently pinned to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.8 > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator > > > > > > > > Discontinuation > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > dependency on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-9489 CorruptedTreeException on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> index > > > > create > > > > > > > > [3]. > > > > > > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the issues releated to this. Some of them > > > > already > > > > > > > > fixed by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> GridGain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Need to check. (Andrey Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-12181 Rebalance hangs on BLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> change. > > > > The > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> found. Will be fixed. (Maxim Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Need to check all the other blocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> issues > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> QA regression (2.7 -> 2.8). I'll provide > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> get > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and check test-cases, optioannly > > > > schedule > > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (optional) Need to create an INFRA ticket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > add > > > > > > > > `Epic` > > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> type to the Apache Ignite JIRA. The issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [6] > > > > has been > > > > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure that I have the right permission to do > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/The-Spark-2-4-support-td43777.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11942 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [3] > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9489 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [4] > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12054 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [5] > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12181 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [6] > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19164 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 12:14, Ivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Pavlukhin < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> vololo...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Maxim, Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Could you please share a results of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Slack > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sep 25? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 15:50, Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Pavlov > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> dpav...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for preparing the release page! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Could you please add Require release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> notes > > > > filter? > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> find an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> example > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.7.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 11:58, Maxim > > > > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mmu...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's true that we are still discussing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nevertheless, all the release blockers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> them may require more than one month to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > fixed. > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> how we will handle these issues and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> track > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > and ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> features to get them into the next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The meeting already scheduled. We will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use > > > > the ASF > > > > > > > > > > Slack on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> September > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 25-th, 17-00 (MSK). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've created the channel [2] > > > > #ignite-release-2_8 > > > > > > > > > > please, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> join. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (Discussion will be on Russin language). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please, also note that I've created the > > > > 2.8 release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> confluence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] with additional information. I will > > > > review all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> issues we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and will move some of them to 2.9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But currently, we've had pinned to 2.8: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 604 open issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 57 in progress issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 34 patch available issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 17 issues marked as the release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> blockers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 4 of release blocker issues are > > > > unassigned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > > > https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 10:21, Dmitriy > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dpav...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose discussion is still at phase > > > > > > > > 0-Initializing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it is probably no reason to discuss > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> blockers. It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sense when the process of removal > > > > irrelevant > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> starts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> (phase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> till phase 4-Release candidate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> building. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 18:53, Anton > > > > Kalashnikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> kaa....@yandex.ru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to notice one more blocker for > > > > release > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> bug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> lead to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some incorrect baseline default > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled > > > > flag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> calculation(more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ticket). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12227 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton Kalashnikov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24.09.2019, 17:01, "Andrey Gura" < > > > > > > > > ag...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I know, scope freeze is not > > > > announced yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey > > > > Antonov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <antonovserge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I would add to release scope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > > > > ticket > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any objections? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12225 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 09:21, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikolay > > > > > > > > Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > merge to master only fully > > > > finished > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It's already true for Ignite > > > > master branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > В Вт, 24/09/2019 в 09:03 +0300, > > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > Zinoviev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The planned before 2_3 months > > > > release > > > > > > > > dates > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> defender > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > partially merged features, In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > > > > opinion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Or we should have Master and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev > > > > branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> separetely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> merge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > only fully finished features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim > > > > > > > > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mmu...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Andrey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Agree with you. It can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affect > > > > the user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> impression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Can you advise, how can we > > > > guarantee > > > > > > > > in our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > current partially merged > > > > features that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> someone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> will not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> partially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > merge the new one? Should we > > > > monitor > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> commits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > such purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:18, > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > Gura < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ag...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > From my point, if some > > > > components > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ready by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > previously discussed > > > > `scope > > > > > > > > freeze` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > perform the next (e.g. > > > > 2.8.1, > > > > > > > > 2.8.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> releases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > It is good approach if > > > > partial > > > > > > > > > > implemented > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> aren't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> merged to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > master branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately > > > > this is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I don't see any reasons to > > > > force new > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > not driver for release. If > > > > we want > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> periodically > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > significantly review the > > > > process. And > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> valuable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > process is feature > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branches > > > > that > > > > > > > > will not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> block > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:12 > > > > PM > > > > > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Gura < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ag...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > From my point of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view > > > > > > > > monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can you clarify, what > > > > exactly is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ready? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can we track planned > > > > changes > > > > > > > > somehow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > We have too many not > > > > resolved > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> IEP-35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> label > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]. Also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > makes sense to do some > > > > usability > > > > > > > > > > testing: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> JMX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> beans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > views, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at > > > > 6:04 PM > > > > > > > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > nizhi...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Hello, Andrey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > From my point of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view > > > > > > > > monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can you clarify, what > > > > exactly is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ready? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can we track planned > > > > changes > > > > > > > > somehow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17:59 > > > > +0300, > > > > > > > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Gura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > From my point of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view > > > > > > > > monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release. So it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > be great to return > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> It seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > of November is good > > > > time for > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 > > > > at 5:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, > > > > let's > > > > > > > > > > arrange > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> talk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in ASF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> slack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > between > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > 16 and 19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > MSK, is it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> г. > > > > в 17:35, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify > > > > the > > > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > 1. 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