Hi Xiangdong, Of course the will of the donor should be respected. I didn't know about any will, therefore I suggested that sort of thing.
However I have seen in the past that things tend to get ugly as soon as money is involved. Just as an example: - If all contributors get the same share, the ones having put in more effort might be offended - If the number of commits count, people doing large commits might be offended - If it's the lines of code, that count, people working on code-generation might have an unfair advangage (concrelely thinking of the PLC4X project with this, not sure if IoTDB has checked-in generated code) - ... It would be a shame to see unrest come to this flurishing community because stuff like this and the amount donated definitely is not insignificant. Chris -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Xiangdong Huang <[email protected]> Gesendet: Montag, 30. August 2021 12:00 An: dev <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] anniversary celebration of Apache IoTDB to TLP Hi, IMO, for donation, I think we need to respect the donator's will. (The community also has the right to reject the donation if the donator's will is not reasonable.) So, if the donator wants to use the money directly to contributors (contributors can reject the donation if they want), I do not think we can use the money to host a meetup. And, if the community accepts the donation, I think we (if some of us want to be volunteers) can do something to get a contributor list, to make the donation possible. As for this donation, from my understand to the donator, he agrees to use the money to make some t-shirts, cups gifts. But I think using the money for a meetup is not his intention. And I have found another donator for donating our meetup (in Europe and in China, and in USA if possible). The left thing is, we have not a meetup schedule now.... (Welcome to discuss this.) Best, ----------------------------------- Xiangdong Huang School of Software, Tsinghua University 黄向东 清华大学 软件学院 Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> 于2021年8月30日周一 下午2:32写道： > > Hi all, > > I just followed up on this thread after noticing the detail of the donation. > Do you know that there is the possibility for targetted donations at Apache? > A donation can be targeted at a PMC. > > I personally definitely can understand if anyone could use any form of > additional income. I'd like to opt-out of this. > > Also do I think it might be an excessive amount of work to actually > distribute funds like that. > > So I would be in favor of using it for Project-Swag, Meetups etc. instead. > > Chris > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Houliang Qi <[email protected]> > Gesendet: Samstag, 28. August 2021 06:12 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] anniversary celebration of Apache IoTDB to TLP > > +1 for T-shirt or Moon cake, > And I think we should reserve some money for our future activities, > such as meetup, some competitions, etc > > > Thanks, > --------------------------------------- > Houliang Qi > BONC, Ltd > > > On 08/28/2021 03:57，Simon Mayer<[email protected]> wrote： > +1 > > Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > ________________________________ > From: Julian Feinauer <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 9:42:40 PM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] anniversary celebration of Apache IoTDB to TLP > > Hey, > > First of big thanks to Prof Wang for this gift to the project! > > I would really love to have an IoTDB shirt (i have some db shirts already but > none from the coolest tsdb...). And we should send one to Andy Pavlo then as > well as he collects shirts from Databases. > > I think it would be cool to install some kind of scholarship with the money > like googles summer of code to motivate students to work on the project. > > Just my ideas :) > > But i love swag as well (cups, stickers, hoodies, shirts,...) > > Julian > > Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > ________________________________ > From: Xiangdong Huang <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 7:38:49 AM > To: dev <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] anniversary celebration of Apache IoTDB to TLP > > Hi, > > I think we can create and share a document. > Anyone can add contributors (if they can provide at least one URL to show the > contribution). > > Once getting a name list, we can start voting to know the quota. > > Best, > ----------------------------------- > Xiangdong Huang > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > 黄向东 > 清华大学 软件学院 > > Jialin Qiao <[email protected]> 于2021年8月26日周四 上午11:41写道： > > Hi, > > Excellent! Apart from gifts such as T-shirt and moon cake, we could discuss > about how to assign the quota. > > As this is the first year we do this, we could consider all contributors > (without time limit) to IoTDB this time. Next time we could limit the > contribution from now on. > > If we accept this precondition, then; > > - how to define the contributors. > We could first collect the candidates. > (1) All contributors who submitted code to IoTDB statisticsed by github are > added by default. > (2) Contributors that attend lectures, meetups to introduce IoTDB. > (3) Contributors that help organize meetups of IoTDB. > > Then, we could get a list of contributors. > > The next question is: should we list their contribution? When nominating, we > could list contributions in brief. > When voting, I prefer only to give a list of names, which may encourage > contributors to take part in the mail list to share their activities. > > - how to assign the quota. > > Using voting software is ok, whether anonymous or not is fine from my side. > > > Thanks, > ————————————————— > Jialin Qiao > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > 乔嘉林 > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > Chao Wang <[email protected]> 于2021年8月25日周三 上午9:10写道： > > Wow! Thanks for the donation of Prof. Jianmin Wang. > > > The products around the community are very good, like Mid-Autumn moon cake. > > > Thanks! > > > Chao Wang > BONC ltd > [email protected] > On 8/24/2021 21:06，Xiangdong Huang<[email protected]> wrote： > Hi Willem, > > Thanks. Yes, it is a good suggestion, I think we can do it in parallel. > > Best, > ----------------------------------- > Xiangdong Huang > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > 黄向东 > 清华大学 软件学院 > > Willem Jiang <[email protected]> 于2021年8月24日周二 下午9:04写道： > > Wo, thanks for the donation of Prof. Jianmin Wang. > > I think it could be meaningful if we can send a T-shirt of IoTDB with the > logo of the anniversary celebration to the contributor instead of just send > out the money. > In this way we can get touch with all kinds of contributor. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 8:32 PM Xiangdong Huang <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > IoTDB graduated from the incubator last year. > And next month, it is the first anniversary of Apache IoTDB (Apache announced > IoTDB's graduation on 23th, Sep, 2020). > > This year, we have: > - 1277 discussions on the mailing list. > - 740 Jira issues > - 272 Github issues > - 1767 pull requests > - we enabled Github Discussion, created Apache IoTDB Slack, etc.. > - 3 major versions are released > > In total, we have: > - 138 contributors that contributing codes (statistics by Github) > - 24 PMCs and 41 Apache committers > - GitHub starts: 1.5k > > We can see the community grows larger and larger. The achievement belongs to > everyone in the community, including the committers, but also all users, > evangelists, and mentors, etc.. > > Thank everyone for your contributions. > > As you know, Apache IoTDB is initially donated from Tsinghua University in > 2018. > After a short discussion with Prof. Jianmin Wang, the dean of the School of > Software, Tsinghua University, he decides to donate 100K Chinese Yuans to the > contributors in the community, as the gift of Apache IoTDB's anniversary > celebration. Everyone who is in the community can get a part of the money > (With regard to how to pay people around the world, let's put it aside now). > Maybe it is not too much, but I think it will be very meaningful. > > So, I'd like to start a discussion, to decide, > - how to define the contributors. > Maybe: All persons that did one of the following things: submit PRs, have > public talks to introduce IoTDB, other ways to popularize IoTDB. > - how to assign the quota. > Maybe: Anonymous voting > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Best, > ----------------------------------- > Xiangdong Huang > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > 黄向东 > 清华大学 软件学院 >
