Shane, Just an fyi, all the points you raised have now been addressed, specifically: * production description now says "Apache Isis software ... " * footer attribution line * TM included in logo * ASF mailing list archives now referenced
We also some ideas to pep up the site a little and make it a bit more dynamic. Thanks again for your feedback Cheers Dan On 16 January 2013 13:45, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > (Please note the differing list archive policies) > > Thanks for your diligence in checking your project branding! Overall the > Isis site looks good, although I have a few minor corrections that the PMC > should make as time permits. > > - The product description should treat "Isis" as an adjective describing > what the product is, namely, software. The minimal change to the > description would be "Apache Isis software is a framework..." > > I know this often makes for slightly odd sounding grammar, but it is > helpful in ensuring our ability to defend Apache marks, since from the > legal perspective, trademark protections are extended to the descriptive > adjective. > > - The attribution line in the footer should be updated to be: "Apache > Isis, Isis, Apache,..." to add a specific attribution of the "Isis" name. > We claim both Apache Isis and Isis as trademarks for your software, since > in common usage, many developers skip saying the "Apache" beforehand. > > - You should have a small TM embedded in the Isis project logo. This > ensures we can defend the logo as a trademark. > > These are minor but important issues, so the PMC should please ensure to > address them when you have time to do website updates (i.e. it's not a > rush). It's great to see a PMC asking for feedback on branding - thanks! > > ---- > Separately, the logo looks great; very attractive. The overall look and > feel of the site is very clean. > > The documentation page has a great indexing into the different kinds of > documentation - very helpful to have a thorough listing of different ways > to learn about the project (and the code) in one place. > > The site does look a little sparse. From the marketing perspective, it > feels like having a few other teasers of what kinds of things users might > want to use Isis for on the homepage, as a way of drawing new users into > the project. > > Also, I might include an archive link to the Apache mail archives along > with the MarkMail links. While I love MarkMail's interface too, we should > ensure we always provide users with links to official ASF services like > mail archives too. This is because we can't guarantee that third party > services will remain active over the long haul, while ASF infra will ensure > that our mail archive links work... as long as there's an ASF. > > Note: these are all just observations; this kind of website detail is > completely up to the PMC to determine, so feel free to ignore me on this > stuff. 8-) > > Thanks! > > - Shane Curcuru > VP, Brand Management > The Apache Software Foundation > > P.S. Apologies for the delay, I had a death in the family recently. > > On 1/3/2013 6:01 AM, Dan Haywood wrote: > >> As the current (and first) PMC chair for Apache Isis, I want to make >> sure that we are compliant with the ASF's branding requirements. >> >> Using [1] as my reference: >> >> * our site [2] has a TM on the header >> * our site has a short description on the home page, repeated on the >> download page [3] >> * our site has the required prominent link to main Apache pages on the >> header. >> * there is a DOAP file that has been registered (also referenced at [4]). >> >> With respect to the description, it suggests that "it's best to pass the >> sample description by trademarks@ and/or legal-internal@, to ensure it's >> a proper trademark goods description". >> >> Accordingly, the description we have on our home page about Apache Isis >> says: >> >> /Apache Isis is a framework for rapidly developing domain-driven apps in >> >> Java. Write your business logic in entities, domain services and >> repositories, and the framework dynamically (at runtime) generates a >> representation of that domain model as a webapp or as a RESTful API. Use >> for prototyping or production./ >> >> >> From your perspective, is there anything that I've missed or should >> change in the above description? >> >> Thanks >> Dan >> Apache Isis PMC Chair >> >> >> [1] >> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/pmcs<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> >> [2] http://isis.apache.org/ >> [3] >> http://isis.apache.org/**download.html<http://isis.apache.org/download.html> >> [4] >> http://isis.apache.org/**support.html<http://isis.apache.org/support.html> >> > >