+1

Yes I would like to get us onto git ASAP

Rob

On 09/09/2014 12:50, "Andy Seaborne" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Claude +1'ed and I'm OK with this plan.
>
>Is everyone else OK with it?  (please "+1/0/-1")
>
>If so, I'll call a VOTE for moving trunk.
>
>It'll look like:
>
>https://github.com/apache/jena
>
>The website remains in subversion because the CMS/svnpubsub does not as
>far as I know, work with git.
>
>As for the misc items we have (Experimental/, Imports/, Scratch/ etc), I
>suggest we leave them for now to keep the main migration clean, then
>migrate them separately if there is a requirement.
>
>       Andy
>
>On 03/09/14 11:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> I had a go at refactoring to have both org.apache.jena and
>> com.hp.hpl.jena APIs (my target was the RDF and ontology APIs).  It
>> looks possible but isn't trivial.  Some classes link the API to the SPI
>> and that then gets a bit messy, which equates to it's not a perfect drop
>> in replacement.
>>
>> But I also got to ask myself about whether this really is an advantage
>> to users and the project.
>>
>> A/ If there is a legacy, when will it go away?
>>
>> B/ If there are multiple classes called "Model", it can be quite
>> confusing for people.  Autocomplete is already polluted enough.
>>
>> C/ There isn't one system to use because using Jena involves choosing
>> different setups via jars included, which in itself may cause a steady
>> stream of questions.
>>
>> And with changes like RDF 1.1 persistent data, there are changes anyway
>> that a major version change reflects.
>> So ...
>
>1/ Move the code to git
>2/ Repackage com.hp.hpl.jena -> org.apache.jena
>3/ Declare jena-3.0-alpha-1 (not a release - just POM version set.).
>4/ Starting making changes
>    (like RDF 1.1 details - invalidates persistent data).
>...
>X/ Release jena-3.0.0 (when we feel it is ready).
>> So just making the package rename once and for all seems to me to be
>> just as helpful.  It's a bump at the point of jena2 -> jena3 but the
>> bump is going to happen if the legacy adapter ever goes away.
>>
>> A quick migration route for user code is to convert all the imports:
>>
>> s/import \s+com.hp.hpl.jena/import org.apache.jena/g
>>
>> in your favorite editor (including Eclipse).
>>
>> Obviously, some corner cases, like full names for classes, do not work
>> but I think they will be few and far between.
>>
>> Whatever we do, we end up with parallel codebases to apply bug fixes to.
>> The only practical way round that that I can see is to delay making the
>> package rename as late as possible.  That does not seem very attractive.
>>
>> Data namespaces are untouched.  We can consider them separately, on a
>> case-by-case basis.
>>
>> So ...
>>
>> 1/ Move the code to git
>> 2/ Repackage com.hp.hpl.jena -> org.apache.jena
>> 3/ Declare jena-3.0-alpha-1 (not a release - just POM version set.).
>> 4/ Starting making changes
>>     (like RDF 1.1 details - invalidates persistent data).
>> ...
>> X/ Release jena-3.0.0 (when we feel it is ready).
>>
>>      Andy
>




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